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Old January 29th, 2008, 07:35 PM
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Document everything regarding this uncomfortable situation and bring the issue to his attention and document that you talked with him about it. If it doesn't stop, document and take it further. Either bring it to your HR department, his boss or the mighty www.eeoc.gov under harassment. Remember, they can not retaliate against you if you make a valid complaint and if you go through the EEOC, they will want the documentation and want to know what you've done to fix the situation. If the company does retaliate against you and you are working with the EEOC, they can find causal link and take even further action.

You should need to work at a company that causes you stress. Take with HR anyway and find out if there is a policy about religion in the work place or inappropriate conversations (religion can be one of them).

Most importantly, document everything regarding this. Time, date, what he said, what you said. It will only help!

Regarding the email idea, I don't think it is a bad idea as it is written documentation that has been time stamped.

the EEOC should be a last resort, but go through the chain to get it resolved, if more problems come of it, then the EEOC can help get things straightened out.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 08:05 PM
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Document everything regarding this uncomfortable situation and bring the issue to his attention and document that you talked with him about it. If it doesn't stop, document and take it further. Either bring it to your HR department, his boss or the mighty www.eeoc.gov under harassment. Remember, they can not retaliate against you if you make a valid complaint and if you go through the EEOC, they will want the documentation and want to know what you've done to fix the situation. If the company does retaliate against you and you are working with the EEOC, they can find causal link and take even further action.

You should need to work at a company that causes you stress. Take with HR anyway and find out if there is a policy about religion in the work place or inappropriate conversations (religion can be one of them).

Most importantly, document everything regarding this. Time, date, what he said, what you said. It will only help!

Regarding the email idea, I don't think it is a bad idea as it is written documentation that has been time stamped.

the EEOC should be a last resort, but go through the chain to get it resolved, if more problems come of it, then the EEOC can help get things straightened out.
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It's actually illegal for him to argue religion with you at work, it goes against all of those "equal opportunity employer" laws that are in place so that you can get or lose a job only based off of your work performance.

Just let him know that you'd rather not talk religion, if he ignores that, remind him that it's not exactly kosher. And if he still ignores you, you go over his head to his boss or to any city or state agency that handles unfair work practices where you live.
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Go in tomorrow and draw a pentagram on your desk..then light some black candles and right before you sacrifice the live chicken...say to your boss.."I thought about what you said about me going to Hell and all and I figured that if I am going I wanna at least make sure I don't have to wait in line.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 10:07 PM
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Document everything regarding this uncomfortable situation and bring the issue to his attention and document that you talked with him about it. If it doesn't stop, document and take it further. Either bring it to your HR department, his boss or the mighty www.eeoc.gov under harassment. Remember, they can not retaliate against you if you make a valid complaint and if you go through the EEOC, they will want the documentation and want to know what you've done to fix the situation. If the company does retaliate against you and you are working with the EEOC, they can find causal link and take even further action.

You should need to work at a company that causes you stress. Take with HR anyway and find out if there is a policy about religion in the work place or inappropriate conversations (religion can be one of them).

Most importantly, document everything regarding this. Time, date, what he said, what you said. It will only help!

Regarding the email idea, I don't think it is a bad idea as it is written documentation that has been time stamped.

the EEOC should be a last resort, but go through the chain to get it resolved, if more problems come of it, then the EEOC can help get things straightened out.
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Go with Nether's idea, it's way more better and fun!
I guess it sucks to be American.... I should no longer help him or anyone else out. America has these laws so the citizens don't have to deal with crap like Roland is going through.

The EEOC is not to bring legal action against the company, but you can do that if you are being treated unfairly, it is to keep him at his job with out being harassed or retaliated against.

Oh wait, Americans I shouldn't help, I'm keeping my mouth shut!
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Old January 29th, 2008, 10:25 PM
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Tell him you don't believe in Hell, and so therefore you can't go to Hell.

Then call in sick the next day. Tell him you don't believe in work, and are incapable of going to a place that does not exist.
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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:26 PM
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Document everything regarding this uncomfortable situation and bring the issue to his attention and document that you talked with him about it. If it doesn't stop, document and take it further. Either bring it to your HR department, his boss or the mighty www.eeoc.gov under harassment. Remember, they can not retaliate against you if you make a valid complaint and if you go through the EEOC, they will want the documentation and want to know what you've done to fix the situation. If the company does retaliate against you and you are working with the EEOC, they can find causal link and take even further action.

You should need to work at a company that causes you stress. Take with HR anyway and find out if there is a policy about religion in the work place or inappropriate conversations (religion can be one of them).

Most importantly, document everything regarding this. Time, date, what he said, what you said. It will only help!

Regarding the email idea, I don't think it is a bad idea as it is written documentation that has been time stamped.

the EEOC should be a last resort, but go through the chain to get it resolved, if more problems come of it, then the EEOC can help get things straightened out.
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Go with Nether's idea, it's way more better and fun!
I guess it sucks to be American.... I should no longer help him or anyone else out. America has these laws so the citizens don't have to deal with crap like Roland is going through.

The EEOC is not to bring legal action against the company, but you can do that if you are being treated unfairly, it is to keep him at his job with out being harassed or retaliated against.

Oh wait, Americans I shouldn't help, I'm keeping my mouth shut!

My point is only that instead of trying to resolve the issue man to man there is an overwhelming urge to take legal action for everything these days. Modern society in general is Sue-Happy, it's just that America is sort of the paragon of this image so you get picked on more.


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America has these laws so the citizens don't have to deal with crap like Roland is going through.
Yeah you're right other countries don't have those laws...I know that us pinko socialist Canadianssss.......what a tick........we have those laws too!!! Oh yeah its just that we don't go all sue-happy over every little thing that ruffles our feathers.
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America has these laws so the citizens don't have to deal with crap like Roland is going through.
Yeah you're right other countries don't have those laws...I know that us pinko socialist Canadianssss.......what a tick........we have those laws too!!! Oh yeah its just that we don't go all sue-happy over every little thing that ruffles our feathers.
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Document everything regarding this uncomfortable situation and bring the issue to his attention and document that you talked with him about it. If it doesn't stop, document and take it further. Either bring it to your HR department, his boss or the mighty www.eeoc.gov under harassment. Remember, they can not retaliate against you if you make a valid complaint and if you go through the EEOC, they will want the documentation and want to know what you've done to fix the situation. If the company does retaliate against you and you are working with the EEOC, they can find causal link and take even further action.

You should need to work at a company that causes you stress. Take with HR anyway and find out if there is a policy about religion in the work place or inappropriate conversations (religion can be one of them).

Most importantly, document everything regarding this. Time, date, what he said, what you said. It will only help!

Regarding the email idea, I don't think it is a bad idea as it is written documentation that has been time stamped.

the EEOC should be a last resort, but go through the chain to get it resolved, if more problems come of it, then the EEOC can help get things straightened out.
Americans


Go with Nether's idea, it's way more better and fun!
Hmmm...last time I checked Canada is part of North America which makes you...*drum roll*...an American...

Oh, you meant people from the United States....





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Old January 29th, 2008, 11:53 PM
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Well i've been to hell, it ain't so bad once you know your way around. the imps are rude though. and the pinky's breath stinks.

I was knee deep in the dead,
I swam through the shores of hell
I went through the inferno.
ANd thy flesh was consummed

I'm the marine to tough for hell.

Do that laugh insanely with a crazed look on your face, and make sure to have some doom memorabelia. if he isn't freaked out then i don't know what to do.

and for the record, I believe that there is a god, and heaven and hell. but that god would not want everyone to believe in the same thing, i dont think religion = facism. I believe that god loves all his creations and that even alot of the things the bible says could be true, from another standpoint.

Created the earth in seven days? sure! but i believe time flies when your imortal, omnipotent spirit who is so powerful that he creates the universe in the first place. seven days for god = what for us? what exactly do scientists belive it took to create planet earth?

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Old January 30th, 2008, 12:29 AM
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ROLAND: Leaving 'Alice in Wonderland' aside, look closely at 'Through the Looking Glass' - particularly 'The Walrus and the Carpenter' poem: what's the metaphorical meaning?


HIS BOSS:I wasn't aware there was one.


ROLAND: Oh, but there is - it colorfully details the sham that is organized religion. The Walrus - with his girth and good-nature - obviously refers to either the Buddha, or - with his tusks - the lovable Hindu elephant god, Lord Ganesha. This takes care of the Eastern religions. The Carpenter is an obvious reference to Jesus Christ, who was purportedly raised the son of a carpenter. He represents the Western religions. And in the poem. what do they do? They dupe all the oysters into followmg them. Then. when the oysters collective guard is down. the Walrus and the Carpenter shuck and devour the helpless creatures, en masse. I don't know what that says to you, but to me it says that following faiths based on these mythological figures insures the destruction of one's inner-being.

Organized religion destroys who we are or who we can be by inhibiting our actions and decisions out of fear of an intangible parent-figure who shakes a finger at us from thousands of years ago and says "No, no!"

'Through the Looking Glass' - a children's tale? I think not.

Leave this for the unenlightened. Poverty is for the gullible - it's another way the church is trying to control you. You take that money you've been collecting for your parish reconstruction and go get yourself a nice piece of ***. You deserve it.
First off let me say that was ****'n funny
That being said on to the serious note. In matters such as these the first step is to attempt to fix it with the individual... then if you have to take it up the latter. Speaking from experience it is a long process if you have to go to HR then to the EEOC. And in the end I found that they did nothing about the situation....mind you that was my personal experience and I'm still fighting with them and it's been over a year.
On that note my father is a deacon for the angelican church... i guess that explains alot They way that I deal with him is I tell him and all his other bible-thumper-church-mongers is you do what works for you and I'll do what works for me... then I like to answer the phone when they call like this "Hell hotline....for twisted perversions press one....for jahova witnesses press 2...for priest who diddle little boys press 3" and so on
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Okay I sit approximately 3 feet away form my boss who is very conservative Christian and constantly argues with me my religious and moral beliefs and standpoints, telling me that if I do not accept the truth hell is all that awaits me.

Any advice on how to deal with the issue?
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