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Old February 16th, 2016, 02:54 AM
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Re: X-Wing

Does overlapping a ship affect your ability to perform actions?

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Played two more games with my brother tonight. We've now opened all the apps I've bought so far, but Most Wanted + 1 Headhunter should ship tomorrow...

First game I played the rebels. He played Scum and Villainy (although technically his ships were the rebel versions where applicable
I had
Luke Skywalker + Squad Leader + R2-D2 + Proton Torpedo
T-70, Red Squadron Veteran (because Blue Ace doesn't have an elite upgrade slot! ) + Push the Limit + BB-8 + Flechette Torpedo
T-65, Rookie pilot + Proton Torpedo + R7-T1* (*whichever droid let's you target lock and boost)

He had
Kyle Catarn + upgrades
9-skill Kirhaxz fighter + upgrades
2-skill Y-wing + R2-D2 + Proton Torpedo + Adv. Proton Torpedo

This game went really well for me and I won with only a few shields lost; he resigned when only one of his ships were left. I forget which one.

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Second game he played the Rebels and I played the Imperiale. I realized partway through picking my squad that I only had two interceptors, not four, which was a bummer for my plans. I decided to do a half-swarm.
I had
Int., Soontir Fel + Swarm Tactics
Mauler Mithel + Expose (I <3 this)
Epsilon Leader
Int., Fel's Wrath
Obsidian Squadron Pilot + Draw Their Fire
Black Squadron Pilot + Draw Their Fire

He had
YT-1300, 1-skill, Gunner, Millennium Falcon title, some other stuff
Yt-2400, 2-skill, some upgrades
Kyle Catarn, Engine Upgrade, some other upgrades

He put a modification on each ship but ended up without much firepower, in spite of us playing 125 points. I opened with my TIEs in a tight mass going down the middle, with one interceptor far out on each flank. When the TIEs closed, the Interceptors swooped in and were easily able to keep his ships always in his their firing arcs all game. The TIE fighters bumped into each other once or twice and in some cases took maneuvers that led them away from the fight, but it all worked out. I won this one pretty well, destroying the Falcon pretty early and getting the 2400 banged up enough for him to surrender after I blew up the HWK. I lost Mithel, my Epsilon Squadron Pilot was down to 1 hull, and both of my Sq. Pilots had taken a critical hit, but altogether it was not a shabby win.

He has resolved to go back to playing lighter, faster ships instead of testing so many bigger slower ones.

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I still don't have enough X-Wings...

Your custom probably has too much Defense.
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Old February 16th, 2016, 07:34 AM
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Re: X-Wing

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Is there a difference between executing an action and performing an action?
I don't believe so. Most cards use "perform an action." What card says to execute an action?
Are you thinking of acquire a target lock, perhaps? Acquiring a TL is not an action. (For example, look at K4 Security Droid. So long you do a green move, you get to acquire a TL, even if you bump a ship or have multiple stress.)
Wait, what??
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Old February 16th, 2016, 09:42 AM
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Is there a difference between executing an action and performing an action?
I don't believe so. Most cards use "perform an action." What card says to execute an action?
Are you thinking of acquire a target lock, perhaps? Acquiring a TL is not an action. (For example, look at K4 Security Droid. So long you do a green move, you get to acquire a TL, even if you bump a ship or have multiple stress.)
Wait, what??
The conversation was in regard to if you can still remove a stress token or recover a shield (via R2-D2) if you can't finish executing your manuver. Then on inertial dampeners it says you may discard this card to perform a 0 white manuver. And I meant execute vs perform a manuver, not an action... Does execute mean try, and perform mean succeed in doing it?

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Old February 16th, 2016, 10:17 AM
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Re: X-Wing

Oh, I just re-read the rules. Acquiring a target lock (say, as directed by a pilot special power or upgrade) is not an action. Acquiring a target lock during the action phase is an action (rules say "perform the Acquire a Target Lock action").
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Old February 16th, 2016, 10:41 AM
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Does overlapping a ship affect your ability to perform actions?
You overlap a ship, you cannot perform actions.

However, things that allow you to perform free actions can still work. (I.E. Jake bumps a ship. At start of Combat, Kyle passes him a focus token. Therefore, Jake can trigger his ability, and barrel roll away so he can shoot the ship he was just touching.)
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Old February 16th, 2016, 10:47 AM
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The conversation was in regard to if you can still remove a stress token or recover a shield (via R2-D2) if you can't finish executing your manuver. Then on inertial dampeners it says you may discard this card to perform a 0 white manuver. And I meant execute vs perform a manuver, not an action... Does execute mean try, and perform mean succeed in doing it?
Yes, you still cover a shield no matter what, so long you do a green move. That ability is not an action.

Whether or not you perform or execute an action, you complete it, even if it doesn't move you all the way.

Perform just means that you do the move. Execute means after you've finished the move. So as to R2-D2's ability, you recover the shield after the move.
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Old February 16th, 2016, 06:08 PM
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However, things that allow you to perform free actions can still work. (I.E. Jake bumps a ship. At start of Combat, Kyle passes him a focus token. Therefore, Jake can trigger his ability, and barrel roll away so he can shoot the ship he was just touching.)
I had never thought of this. You, sir, are awesome for pointing out how good Kyle Katarn truly is.

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However, things that allow you to perform free actions can still work. (I.E. Jake bumps a ship. At start of Combat, Kyle passes him a focus token. Therefore, Jake can trigger his ability, and barrel roll away so he can shoot the ship he was just touching.)
I had never thought of this. You, sir, are awesome for pointing out how good Kyle Katarn truly is.
This also works if Jake is on an obstacle. Ships can perform free actions while touching other ships or on obstacles. For example, Kyle passes the focus to Jake, and so long the template doesn't overlap the obstacle, Jake could boost or barrel roll off the obstacle.
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Re: X-Wing

Just wait until you piece together how Guri + Push the Limit + Cloaking Device + Stygium Particle Accelerator works...

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Just wait until you piece together how Guri + Push the Limit + Cloaking Device + Stygium Particle Accelerator works...
I haven't had much interest in S&V until I saw this combo. it almost makes my brain hurt. Just wow
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Old February 18th, 2016, 12:23 AM
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Re: X-Wing

Hello,
I was wondering if the maneuver dials for the Scum ships in the Most Villain set are the same as their Rebel/Imperial Counterparts, as in what maneuvers they allow.

For instance, the Rebel Y-Wing has a Red 4 U-Turn, would it be the same on the Scum Y-Wing or something completely different like a Red 2 U-Turn?
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Hello,
I was wondering if the maneuver dials for the Scum ships in the Most Villain set are the same as their Rebel/Imperial Counterparts, as in what maneuvers they allow.

For instance, the Rebel Y-Wing has a Red 4 U-Turn, would it be the same on the Scum Y-Wing or something completely different like a Red 2 U-Turn?
They are exactly the same.
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