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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Initial Playtesting)

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Ravager (Rose Wilson)


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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 200-220?
- Give a brief overview. This match felt pretty even. Had the Young Justice had more ways to answer the multi-attacks or had I played them better they might have pulled out a win here. I did forget to use Flanking Strike here so I'll focus on that in the other games.
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Ravager (Rose) (210), Robin (Tim II) (150), Arsenal (190), Secret (120), Lil'Lobo (180), Superboy (Kon-El I) (210), Kid Falsh (Wally) (140) {1,200} vs Shredder (245), Scorpion (Hanzo) (205), Noob (230), Shadow Wraith (10), Raphael (170), 4xHand (340) {1,200)
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 200-210?
- Give a brief overview. This game came right down to the wire. Luck was really swingy in this game but at the end it felt like it could have been anyones game.
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Ravager (Rose) (210), Starfire (210), Nightwing I (200), Raven (190), Changeling (190) {1,000} vs Fan 4

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 200
- Give a brief overview. She fell pretty early here but still did some good damage even taking Wrecker down with her.
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Ravager (Rose) (210), Cap (Steve) (240), Ms. Marvel (250) {800} vs Wrecking Crew
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: She's good and useful, but fragile. I think she'd be fine at 210 but that encourages some strong builds. Also of note her team lost all 3 of these matches if by a narrow margin so I think a drop to 200 would be just fine and still not break anything.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: She's fun and diverse and more of a threat than she first appears. Also pretty fragile. I like where she is at. She doesn't seem like a must draft but more of a useful draft.
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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Initial Playtesting)

When we talked after game 2 I thought she'd end up between 190-200 with a cautious 200. The last test isn't altering my thoughts. Pre-Yea anywhere int the 190-210 range.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Initial Playtesting)

You played that first game 30 points light on the Titans' side - Kid Flash Wally is 110. Wallace is the 140 point one, but you mention him slipstreaming.

Agreed that 200 looks good with those results. Pre-yea
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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Initial Playtesting)

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You played that first game 30 points light on the Titans' side - Kid Flash Wally is 110. Wallace is the 140 point one, but you mention him slipstreaming.

Agreed that 200 looks good with those results. Pre-yea
Huh, I wonder how I mixed that one up. Probably when I was putting it together on TTS. I don't know the Flash family that well

I propose we move to Public Playtesting at 200!
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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Initial Playtesting)

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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Initial Playtesting)

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You played that first game 30 points light on the Titans' side - Kid Flash Wally is 110. Wallace is the 140 point one, but you mention him slipstreaming.

Agreed that 200 looks good with those results. Pre-yea
Huh, I wonder how I mixed that one up. Probably when I was putting it together on TTS. I don't know the Flash family that well

I propose we move to Public Playtesting at 200!
We did talk about Wallace and Rose at 210 being a 350 block so maybe that's what caused the confusion. I did question how the Ninja army beat the Titans so easily so that makes sense.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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You played that first game 30 points light on the Titans' side - Kid Flash Wally is 110. Wallace is the 140 point one, but you mention him slipstreaming.

Agreed that 200 looks good with those results. Pre-yea
Huh, I wonder how I mixed that one up. Probably when I was putting it together on TTS. I don't know the Flash family that well

I propose we move to Public Playtesting at 200!
We did talk about Wallace and Rose at 210 being a 350 block so maybe that's what caused the confusion. I did question how the Ninja army beat the Titans so easily so that makes sense.
Oh and we also realized I played Secret wrong. Letting her choose Rose, but that should have helped and not hindered them.
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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Vote for Playtesting)

Looks like we need one more vote here or 24 hours.
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This passes. Thanks guys!
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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Public Playtesting)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Ravager Rose

Army Test
Map: A Couple Puddles
Units: Ravager (200), Nightwing, Raven, Starfire, Cyborg (1000) VS Injustice League: Lex, Deathstroke, Giganta, Reverse-Flash (1000)
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Army Test
Map: A Couple Puddles
Units: Ravager (200), Nightwing, Kid Flash Wally, Kid Flash Wallace, Impulse, Artemis, Arrowette (1000) VS Captain Cold II, Girder, The Top, Abra Kadabra, Weather Wizard I (1000)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Definitely a powerful addition to the Titans, with a lot of offensive and autowound power, but she has a pretty notable weakness against long-ranged figures. I’d consider her one to watch closely (as the Titans are already a strong faction, and Ravager’s powerset fits well alongside Nightwing & crew), but she felt close at 200 in my games.
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Re: The Book of Ravager (Rose Wilson) (Public Playtesting)

Thanks Archie, and yes. This is one in watching closely. Probably gonna want 3 sets of public tests here, but we'll see how we feel after the next set
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