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View Poll Results: Syvaris or the Krav
Syvaris 19 21.11%
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Old August 28th, 2011, 12:42 AM
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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

For standard scape, the Krav win almost any imaginable matchup.

However...this year we are doing a restricted units list (DFW) for NHSD, and I am considering Syvarris as one of my units as the Krav are on the list (choose only one unit from the list).

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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

See, I'd have to go with draft them both. In my mind, the Krav are more of an OM intensive, early-game piece. Syv is better for later game or clean up, when figures are closer to your start zone and he can hit them without moving (or after a short trot).

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Syvarris because he has way more Swag.

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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

In the Gencon main event this year, 8 players used the Krav (including two day 2 armies). Zero players used Syvarris.

In the 2010 main event, despite an upgrade format that enouraged leaving some empty spaces, 14 players used the Krav, including two day 2 players, and 2 players upgraded with the Krav for day 2. Only two players used Syvarris (one used both).

Krav have also appeared in a number of placing or winning armies in side events at Gencon (including 2 winning armies in 2011). The only Syvarris army to place was the Ullar champ in 2011, which obviously couldn't use the Krav.

Basically, unless you've got some sort of restriction in army selection, extremely restricted startzones, or some other unusual scenario situation, the Krav are a dominant choice over Syvarris. Syvarris just falls too quickly to opposing range, while the Krav win nearly all range-versus-range showdowns. This is not to say Syvarris is bad - all told, he's a pretty strong figure - it's just that the Krav are almost uniformly better and play a similar role.
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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

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Krav have also appeared in a number of placing or winning armies in side events at Gencon (including 2 winning armies in 2011). The only Syvarris army to place was the Ullar champ in 2011, which obviously couldn't use the Krav.
Also, it is good to point out that of the three Ullar builds, two had Syvarris and all three were Greenscale builds. This proves the point that in a tournament setting Krav definitely perform better, but I would say Syvarris is more fun to play in a friendly game. Thanks for the interesting statistics Dok!

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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

Syvarris. He can outrange just about anything.


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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

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Syvarris. He can outrange just about anything.
That reminds me. When I would put Syvarris on top of the spare terrain, I would also give him the Glyph of Ivor.

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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

In all fairness, though I would still more often prefer the KMA as well, the question should be taken as one of overall rather than head to head performance. There are surely going to be circumstances which favor the extra range and conditions in which the status of "hero" allows for greater survivability compared to "squad".
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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

I love Syvaris, and he has performed well for me pretty consistently, but I have to agree that overall the Agents are a better bet. I still pick Syvaris quite regularly (often because the agents are drafted by someone else before I can get to them) and there are situations where he is superior, but the Agents are generally the better pick.
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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

In a standard tournament setting the Krav take it hands down, there's no contest there. In a draft setting, with the right circumstances, Syvarris can be the go to, but 9 times out of 10 it's the Krav.

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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

Krav all the way for me, although Syvarris double shot with the extra range is nice. The versatality of 3 figures and 3 attacks per turn outweighs the skinny archer with his 2 attacks and extra range.

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Re: Syvaris or Krav Maga Agents?

Krav. Harder to kill, more attacks, more figures, their, in my opinion, better all around. Just my
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