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Re: Sports: NFL

Vick also had a big arm and was underrated as a passer.

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Re: Sports: NFL

In 2006, Michael Vick rushed for 1,036 yards. That stands, today, as the single season record for a quarterback. Jackson is properly compared to Vick, who really created that mold.

Now, 13 years later, Jackson is at (roughly, following today's game) 700 yards rushing after 10 games. If I'm mathing this up correctly, that would extrapolate to 1,120 yards over a full season, beating that record by almost 100 yards.

Also in 2006, Michael Vick put up a QBR (a stat of dubious precise value, but it's not necessary to be precise for my purposes) of 49.3. Jackson, conversely, had a QBR of 95.4 entering today's game, in which he posted a perfect QBR so his season average is going to be over 100 when it's officially calculated this week. He's already had two games this year with more touchdown passes than incompletions.

Vick was revolutionary, in 2006. He showed that it might be possible to have a dual threat quarterback. Jackson is what Vick showed might be, but Vick was never this. Vick's passing game was better, later in his career, but that was long after he could put up numbers on the ground the way he once had.

I didn't bring it up to bug anybody, or to (so to speak) crow, or to rub salt in anybody's wounds. It's just something exciting & special happening in the NFL right now, and I wanted to share.

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Re: Sports: NFL

I'm happy for fans that have an exciting QB to watch, despite the fact that the "storied" franchise of the Ravens have had a better QB history than the Bears in my 52 years.

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I'm happy for fans that have an exciting QB to watch, despite the fact that the "storied" franchise of the Ravens have had a better QB history than the Bears in my 52 years.
Trubiski vs. our backup in the first half yesterday legit looked like a preseason game. Really, really ugly offensive football.

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Re: Sports: NFL

Imagine being Mahomes, coming back from injury and throwing a freaking jump pass TD, and you don't get the highlight of the week.

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I'm happy for fans that have an exciting QB to watch, despite the fact that the "storied" franchise of the Ravens have had a better QB history than the Bears in my 52 years.
Trubiski vs. our backup in the first half yesterday legit looked like a preseason game. Really, really ugly offensive football.
Well, the last couple minutes looked better for us anyway. Vs the Eagles, we only had 9 yards of offense in the first half

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Re: Sports: NFL

I would have liked to see Vick allowed to play in an offense like what Jackson is allowed and see how he would have developed. Atlanta tried to force him into a traditional pocket passing role while mixing in called runs. Never truly felt organic. Wit the read options and Run-Pass options the NFL is finally using its dangerous.

The Vick comparison is just. Michael Vick was the quickest human I’ve ever stood next to in my life. I thought I was fast in college (3.1 seconds in the 30 - baseball players don’t run 40 yard dashes). My senior year at Virginia Tech was his Redshirt year. Everyone knew he was special.

Also remember that Vick’s one real injury sparked a rule change (the horse collar tackle being outlawed). Jackson, like Vick, doesn’t take many hard hits.

Titans QB took harder hits scrambling yesterday than Jackson has combined all season.

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Re: Sports: NFL

Yes! That is all true. Who knows what Vick would have looked like, if he hadn't had to break the mold himself?

But it's also fair to say that Jackson would not have performed as he has, on most teams. The entire team is built around his skill set, from the ground up. Most franchises would not have been willing to reshape everything - personnel, playbook - to complement a single player. Here you can see Vick himself talking about it, following the Ravens win over the Seahawks two weeks ago.
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I know one big hit, or one chance twist of the knee, could change everything. I'm hopeful that won't happen. But I'm excited now, while we're in the moment.

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I'm happy for fans that have an exciting QB to watch, despite the fact that the "storied" franchise of the Ravens have had a better QB history than the Bears in my 52 years.
Trubiski vs. our backup in the first half yesterday legit looked like a preseason game. Really, really ugly offensive football.
Well, the last couple minutes looked better for us anyway. Vs the Eagles, we only had 9 yards of offense in the first half
Going against the number 31 defense in the league will make a scout teamer like Mitch look competent at times. To be fair to him, though, you guys have terrible offensive skill players too.

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I'm happy for fans that have an exciting QB to watch, despite the fact that the "storied" franchise of the Ravens have had a better QB history than the Bears in my 52 years.
Trubiski vs. our backup in the first half yesterday legit looked like a preseason game. Really, really ugly offensive football.
Well, the last couple minutes looked better for us anyway. Vs the Eagles, we only had 9 yards of offense in the first half
Going against the number 31 defense in the league will make a scout teamer like Mitch look competent at times. To be fair to him, though, you guys have terrible offensive skill players too.
Our offensive line sucks, we don't have a TE (despite the TD before half was by a TE, one that I hadn't heard of previous to that catch), our receivers are like tied for most drops in the league, and our coach is a crappy play caller. So yeah, while your defense sucks, so does our offense, too to bottom. Heck, even our kicker missed an extra point.

Additionally, our defense is just average to good lately, certainly not good to great it great. The loss of Akheim Hicks on the defensive line has been huge and allows Mack to get double teamed and held every play. If Stafford was playing, the Lions would have won.

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If Stafford was playing, the Lions would have won.
Not that we'd be going anywhere this season regardless, but 100% agree. We should've been up a couple of TDs at the very least by halftime if we had a competent QB.

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Re: Sports: NFL

The Lions’ all gray uniforms make me think there’s something wrong with my tv.

Edit: they’re looking good as the game enters halftime. I’m rooting for them, because of my friends here! But these all gray uniforms aren’t a good look. IMHO.

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