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Old November 4th, 2019, 11:07 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I would like to nominate my custom Seishin Samurai for SoV. The miniature used is the Skeletal Samurai from Pathfinder's Ruins of Lastwall set released this past April.


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The Skeletal Samurai is from a recent Pathfinder Battles release in April, so it is still pretty decently available at good prices.

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Old November 4th, 2019, 11:11 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

How many of these guys would you suggest in a normal army?

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Old November 4th, 2019, 11:17 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

2 to 3 Seishin Samurai for normal games is enough. Even in 600-700 point formats, I've rarely found more than two to concurrently be on the board, and 4+ is generally a bad idea.

In Unique builds, that number changes to 1 to 2 depending on which Samurai you pair them with. At 2x, you could get the Izumi Samurai, and 3x is rarely a good investment when you have so few figures left.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

to review.

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Old November 4th, 2019, 11:34 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

@Astroking112 great figure! Anything that helps the samauri is a win in my book.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

to review the Seishin Samurai.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Quote:
WAVE OF FEAR
When taking a turn with Seishin Samourai, you may move and attack with all Seishin Samourai that you control.
If I understood well this power, it is oriented with Omegacron-ish powers -- i.e. you don't take a turn with them but only a (normal) move and a (normal) attack -- ?

I wonder if this is not the kind of no-go way due to some corner cases. Other people -- more used to such kind of design choices -- probably more insights than me about this... Maybe I'm wrong, but I have some old memories about "out-of-turn attacks are evil". I let other confirm/infirm these thoughts.

I this is the case, but I guess giving a try to a less error-prone (rulewise) wording could help the design (inspired from Thrall's commun hero special power) :
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After revealing an Order Marker on a Seishin Samourai Army Card, you may take a turn with any or all Seishin Samourai you control.
Just giving my two coins... I don't want to go in any kind of workshopping but the current Wave of Fear power formulation feels dangerous IMO, and from its straightforward intention it looks like it should not be a source of cons arguments.


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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

It is worth noting that this design also dramatically impacts future attempts to create competitive common samurai squads.

Like this unit or not, it is hardly "creative," notwithstanding its protestation to the contrary in the nominating post. It essentially creates a melee squad that spawns off of dead humans. Of course, you can have this squad be any size you want, which is nice, and it comes with extra bells and whistles, but it's basically a reskinned Ebon Armor. Designed to bump the Tagawa Samurai Archers, is my guess. But it's a reskinned Ebon Armor. Creative?

Do the bells and whistles mean it plays differently from the EA? Perhaps. But it's basically the same design. But better, because of added flexibility in squad size and auto-movement, which are both major boons.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Is Honor Beyond Death supposed to only work with Seishin Samurai that have not yet been destroyed?

Why would you not take a Seishin Samurai figure for every other Samurai in your army? Wave of Fear wants as many Seishin Samurai as possible.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I would limit it to just Unique Samurai, incase someone creates a common Samurai squad.

What happens if the Samurai is killed by a Zombie? Which figure comes back?

I would also give this Wave of Fear power to be limited to something like Wyrmling Bonding.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

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I would limit it to just Unique Samurai, incase someone creates a common Samurai squad.
Excuse me but the Tagawa Samuari Archers would like to have a pointed conversation with you.

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