The Book of Invisible Man

[Splash]

In addition to getting psychotically murdery thrills from going after people while invisible, I think Tormentor also makes sense that he could work with Pinhead, but wouldn't be a candidate for resurrection like the slashers.

[Arkham]

Right. Just giving him the bonding would work perfectly with his need to be unengaged at the end of each round to setup for Infiltration. Him not being able to be resurrected will keep him from becoming too good of a combo. He'll really appreciate the initiative help from Leprechaun, Ghostface, and Leatherface.

At the very least, it'll give him 2 solid thematic factions to fit into which is cool, and provides another point value for Slasher/Tormentor army building.

[Splash]

Well I'm definitely sold, I'll just update the leftbox now then, hope that's alright.

Sorry if it's not, I'm not always sure what needs more discussion and what doesn't, but I think this is still pretest design so I should be able to?

[Splash]

I really like the Insane synergies for him too, letting him work with Joker Goons and Carnage.

[Arch-vile]

Yep that's cool. I dig that direction as well. Crime Syndicate/IJL didn't really have great ways to boost initiative so this should give him more of a fit factionally.

[Arkham]

I'd still tag the Heroes just to be sure, letting them know of the switch, just in case there's any issue on their end.

[Splash]

Originally Posted by Arkham

I'd still tag the Heroes just to be sure, letting them know of the switch, just in case there's any issue on their end.

Sure thing.

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Invisible Man's Personality and Class have been changed from Sadistic Psychopath to Insane Tormentor for better faction synergy.

[Tornado]

That is a nice upgrade.

[Arkham]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Invisible Man

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Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Invisible Man(110), Pinhead(335), Leprechaun(75), Chucky(85), Leatherface(95), Ghostface(100) (800)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Moon Knight(150), Daredevil II(200) (800)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:


INVISIBLE STEALTH:


INFILTRATION:
R1: Wins, no effect.
R2: Wins, placed adjacent to Luke Cage.
• Views OM2, 2/2 skulls, 2 wounds on Cage.

SELF-SERVING BETRAYAL:


Notes:
Ghostface's Obsession is Daredevil.
Invisible Man was killed in Round 2 by Iron Fist.


Luke Cage with 1/5 wounds. (4 life)
Daredevil unwounded.
Moon Knight unwounded.

Slashers started falling apart here once Pinhead got jumped in the 3rd round. Invisible Man did well with his Infiltration on the 2nd round, but that placing him next to Luke Cage meant he was getting his face punched in fairly quick afterwards.

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Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Invisible Man(110), Oracle(110), Ms. Marvel(350), Valkyrie(350) (920)
vs.
Professor X(220), Gorgon(300), Phoenix(230), Beast(170) (920)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:


INVISIBLE STEALTH:


INFILTRATION:
R1: Wins, no effect.
R2: Wins, places himself next to Gambit.
R3: Wins, places himself next to Professor X:
• Views XOM.

SELF-SERVING BETRAYAL:


Notes:



Phoenix with 1/5 wounds. (4 life)
Professor X unwounded.

Valkyrie got prioritized and taken out quick. Ms. Marvel setup in the middle, and used her bonding to move Invisible Man closer to the enemy base to setup Infiltration on Professor X. Ms. Marvel held her own, but ultimately she was bested by Phoenix. Invisible Man reached Professor X with Infiltration on Round 3, but he viewed an X and was then swiftly killed by Phoenix.

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Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Invisible Man(110), Pinhead(335), Leprechaun(75), Sam(95), Chucky(85), Malice(300) (1000)
vs.
Fantastic Four (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
2 wounds on Invisible Woman(+4), kills her.

INVISIBLE STEALTH:
R3: Placed next to Leprechaun.
R6: Placed next to Sam.

INFILTRATION:
R1: Wins, no effect.
R3: Wins, placed next to Thing:
• Views OM3, 1/3 skulls, 1 wound on Thing.
R6: Wins, placed next to Thing:
• Views OM2, 2/2 skulls, 2 wounds on Thing(1 is excess), kills him.

SELF-SERVING BETRAYAL:
R2: Loses, placed on card.
R5: Loses, placed on card.

Notes:



Sam with 6/7 wounds. (1 life)
Invisible Man unwounded.

Very close finish that could have easily gone the other way, and if Thing had won initiative, it most likely would have. Malice sort of blew it on her end. Invisible Man had a bit more leeway here as the heat was taken off of him with others than needed dealing with, allowing him to stay a little off the radar in key moments. Just about everything came into play in this game though, with him winning some initiatives, sometimes gaining him the Infiltration benefit, sometimes not. He lost some initiatives and betrayed his team a couple of times. And he came back to win the game in its final moment.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
I dig how his powers all work together. 110 might be a hair overcosted, but overall he played his part in each game to varying degrees of failure or success. He's fun, and I really like him in the Slasher/Tormentor faction. Feels like a natural fit, adding another piece that the opponent has to deal with before he bites them. I could see sticking with 110 for now, especially with more factional pieces to be built, thus him absorbing some of the points for them, otherwise, seeing him come down to 90 or 100 wouldn't be bad either.

[Splash]

Dang, those were some speedy tests that came out of nowhere, thanks @Arkham !

I think 105 would be a good cost to move forward with, odd costings for an odd League would help the LXG with the little ties they will be receiving so far.
Do you think that would still work well with the horror faction? I know Sam and Leatherface are 95, so pairing with either of them would be a 200 block. If he loses more games 95 would definitely work.

[Arkham]

Yeah, 105 should still be fine for army building. With there being options at 95, 85, and 75, that leaves plenty of room for variable choices.

Invisible Man(105), Pinhead(335), Leprechaun(75), Jason(175), Leatherface(95), Creeper(215) (1000)
Invisible Man(105), Pinhead(335), Chucky(85), Jason(175), Ghostface(100), Sadako(200) (1000)
Invisible Man(105), Pinhead(335), Chucky(85), Jason(175), Gremlins x 12(300) (1000)
Invisible Man(105), Pinhead(335), Chucky(85), Jason(175), Malice(300) (1000)
Invisible Man(105), Pinhead(335), Chucky(85), Jason(175), Ghostface(100), Gremlins x8(200) (1000)
Invisible Man(105), Pinhead(335), Chucky(85), Pennywise(275*), Sadako(200) (1000)
Invisible Man(105), Pinhead(335), Jason(175), Freddy(175), Leatherface(95), Creeper(215) (1100)
Invisible Man(105), Pinhead(335), Jason(175), Freddy(175), Sam(95), Creeper(215) (1100)

etc.

[Ericth74]

Seems like a real good fit here!