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Old June 17th, 2022, 10:20 PM
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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

I think I'd probably cut the D20 boost from Dreadnok Leader to streamline it a bit. 6+ isn't that hard to hit fairly reliably that it needs boosting, and he's already adding a guaranteed turn on top of the other ones, so you're most likely going to get at least 3 turns every Order Marker until one of them dies, with or without the D20 boost.

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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

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I think I'd probably cut the D20 boost from Dreadnok Leader to streamline it a bit. 6+ isn't that hard to hit fairly reliably that it needs boosting, and he's already adding a guaranteed turn on top of the other ones, so you're most likely going to get at least 3 turns every Order Marker until one of them dies, with or without the D20 boost.
Other Dreadnoks need a 9 or potential 7 to bond. I originally had Zartan as the leader needing a 6.
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After taking a turn with Buzzer, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 9 or higher, you may take a turn with any other figure you control with the Dreadnoks special power that has not taken a turn yet this player turn. If Buzzer inflicted at least 1 wound during his turn, you may add 2 to the roll.
I'm fine with dropping the d20 boost if you think it's still better without it.

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Old June 17th, 2022, 11:49 PM
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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

Ah, well I do like it streamlined without the boost and I think the combo is worthwhile without it. Could always tweak the rolls down a bit on the others since they are all on hold.

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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

Just tagging the current Heroes as this thread is a few months old and lots of changes in heroes.

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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

The leader effect obviously makes you want to lead with Zartan, but even without it I’m dumping a ton of OMs on him anyways for those easy turns.
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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

I like the idea of one auto bond, then the d20 determining if you get all 3 to activate or not. No opinion on the d20 bonus aspect, as mentioned you could just lower the roll needed on the other cards. Since those 3 are units that can get taken out rather easily, and the bonding is limited to only those that have not already taken a turn, I'm not too concerned with them being close to automatic. I do like keeping the random/chaotic feel of it not being automatic though, that fits them well.

Looking forward to trying these guys out with Viper. Zartan can be her Mercenary, and then the Criminals help her initiative boost out. Once the Dreadnoks go down, Zartan and Viper and bond for a bit. Works out well as a Proxy for how the Cobra leadership could work. Cobra hires the Merc Zartan, who employs the Dreadnoks.
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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

Having an automatic turn in a potentially endless bonding chain is asking for trouble with full cover vehicles.
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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

The turn chain is not endless at all…
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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

Did miss that people who had already can't. Concerns have still been expressed regarding triple turns, but my concern is much less with the three turn cap.
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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

Long term plan is for Cobra Commander to be able to bond with Mercenaries and therefore have Zartan bond with his Dreadnoks. Hence the purpose of the OM trigger for the d20 boost but not on the free turns. If he follows the orders of Cobra (OM on Cobra Commander) it's just a job and don't get the d20 boost. If they are doing their own thing (OM on Zartan) they are more willing. Not pushing for it, just laying out my thought process.

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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

Ooh wait, yeah, just realized this is set up for static three turn bonding chains before the D20 is involved. That seems problematic.

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Re: The Book of Zartan (Back on)

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Ooh wait, yeah, just realized this is set up for static three turn bonding chains before the D20 is involved. That seems problematic.
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