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Re: AotP Question Dump

I had a couple of questions regarding the new stuff:

1. For the Planeswalker Nahiri - Her last power, Lithomancy, which is the power that allows her to place a single-hex sand tile below her 2x per game, it says "After moving, Nahiri may place 1 of those tiles on a non-water space Nahiri occupies". My question is: Does this technically allow her to place it on a magical ruin cryptolith? It seems like it does, even though it doesn't really fit and would be kind of dumb.

2. White spell Angel's Mercy - It says "Play Angel's Mercy only at the start of the turn of a hero creature you control. Remove up to 3 damage markers from a friendly creature". Now the fluff and the picture seem to indicate that it is the hero creature that does the healing to someone else, but the technical wording makes me think you could use this on a hero creature to heal 3 wounds from itself, is this correct?

3. White spell Tenacity - It says "Enchant Hero or Planeswalker. Creatures you control get +1 power while attacking figures engaged with enchanted figure". Does this mean that if you place this on your hero, that the hero will get +1 power to any of its engaged attacks as well as any other creature that attacks a target adjacent to your hero?
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Re: AotP Question Dump

For #2, the PW 'casts' the spells. I think any friendly figure on the board (but not the PW) can be healed by the spell. The catch is that it can only be cast on a Hero creature turn, and then at the beginning. It sounds like the timing of the healing is what is important; and that any friendly can be healed.
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Re: AotP Question Dump

#3 I believe is yes. Not sure on #1 but I lean towards yes, remove the glyph, place the sand hex, replace the glyph on top.

You cannot place enchanchments on cards of creatures that have not been summoned yet, correct?

During a spell casting phase, can you cast any number of spells(up to 3)?
Can I wait until the end of my PW's turn and cast 3 spells?

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Re: AotP Question Dump

#2 and #3 Yes.

About the spells, you can move and attack with the pw, and then cast all 3 of your spells, no problem with that.
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Re: AotP Question Dump

Thanks.

How about placing enchanments on creatures not yet summoned?

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Thanks.

How about placing enchanments on creatures not yet summoned?
Yes. I forgot where they put that, but I'm pretty sure it can be done.

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Thanks.

How about placing enchanments on creatures not yet summoned?
Yes. I forgot where they put that, but I'm pretty sure it can be done.
#2 in the FAQ says no.

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Thanks.

How about placing enchanments on creatures not yet summoned?
Yes. I forgot where they put that, but I'm pretty sure it can be done.
#2 in the FAQ says no.
Guess I should definitely read that! I thought they kept it the way with the AE and viking spirits.

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Re: AotP Question Dump

1. The black spell Ever After - "Return target squad creature from an opponent's figure graveyard to the battlefield on an empty space adjacent to a black Planeswalker you control. You may move and attack with that creature. At end of turn, return it to its owner's figure graveyard. "

My question is how this works? Do I play it, grab a figure, put it on the battlefield, and then attack with it, and then kill it at the end of the turn (ie attacking immediately)? Or do I grab the figure and then have to use that figure as my move and attack for the turn? Either way is a little confusing. I wish it said immediately like other cards do. I am going to assume that you immediately move and attack with it and just kill it at the end of the turn, but I wanted to ask.

The other thing has to do with what happens when the figure enter's the battlefield. For example, say I grab a Kessig Ranger, who says at the start of their turn one of their guys gets to attack an additional time. Does that go into effect or not since it might not technically be a turn for them, but rather whatever figure I activated before playing this event. I am sure there are other more interesting interactions with this spell, this was just the one that came up.

2. My other question has to do with the Transform abilities. For example, when Arlinn transforms, it happens at the end of her turn. It is optional. However, she has abilities that trigger at the end of her turn. Are you only allowed to choose one of the end of turn abilities to use if you are transforming? Or for example may I use Alinn's Archmage Assault to deal 1 damage, transform into a wolf, and then Howl and add a +1 power icon to a squad? I am hoping you can only use one ability. There also isn't a limit clause to the transform ability. What's to stop someone from transforming to get both bonuses and then just finish transforming to the form they want? I doubt you can use transform twice but I thought I'd ask. I also don't think you can just keep transforming and using both abilities but there really isn't anything in the rulebook that says otherwise.
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Re: AotP Question Dump

Great questions.

Another one.

Can you place icons on cards of creatures not yet summoned?
My guess is no since you cannot place spells on them but some clarity would be great.

Looking forward to trying Nissa with the Zombie Hero for a full Zombie army at 600.

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1. The black spell Ever After - "Return target squad creature from an opponent's figure graveyard to the battlefield on an empty space adjacent to a black Planeswalker you control. You may move and attack with that creature. At end of turn, return it to its owner's figure graveyard. "



My question is how this works? Do I play it, grab a figure, put it on the battlefield, and then attack with it, and then kill it at the end of the turn (ie attacking immediately)? Or do I grab the figure and then have to use that figure as my move and attack for the turn? Either way is a little confusing. I wish it said immediately like other cards do. I am going to assume that you immediately move and attack with it and just kill it at the end of the turn, but I wanted to ask.
The 'you may move and attack with that creature' is part of the resolution of the spell, you must do it then as the spell is resolving. Regardless of what phase in the turn you case the spell, the targeted creature comes out of the "Figure Graveyard" is placed onto the battle, MAY then move and attack, and then at the end of the turn a trigger is placed 'on the stack' to remove that figure.

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The other thing has to do with what happens when the figure enter's the battlefield. For example, say I grab a Kessig Ranger, who says at the start of their turn one of their guys gets to attack an additional time. Does that go into effect or not since it might not technically be a turn for them, but rather whatever figure I activated before playing this event. I am sure there are other more interesting interactions with this spell, this was just the one that came up.
The ranger's ability triggers 'At the start of their turn' I would say that only the Army card you choose for that turn as the figure/squad 'taking a turn' Look at the wording for the spells that read along the lines of 'Play only on the turn of a blue planeswalker you control' and the like.
Basically, the figure is only 'Moving and attacking' as opposed to 'Taking a Turn'
IE: The Kessig Ranger's double attack would not trigger.



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2. My other question has to do with the Transform abilities. For example, when Arlinn transforms, it happens at the end of her turn. It is optional. However, she has abilities that trigger at the end of her turn. Are you only allowed to choose one of the end of turn abilities to use if you are transforming? Or for example may I use Alinn's Archmage Assault to deal 1 damage, transform into a wolf, and then Howl and add a +1 power icon to a squad? I am hoping you can only use one ability. There also isn't a limit clause to the transform ability. What's to stop someone from transforming to get both bonuses and then just finish transforming to the form they want? I doubt you can use transform twice but I thought I'd ask. I also don't think you can just keep transforming and using both abilities but there really isn't anything in the rulebook that says otherwise.
Taking a page from M:TG I would say these abilities should read 'At the beginning of the end step' so that you could have multiple end step triggers which you can place on the stack in whatever order you choose, BUT it would clear up the confusion of this.

Basically what I'm getting at is:
Arlinn can only trigger the abilities on ONE side of her card per turn (whichever the face-up side was that turn)
If she's in Human mode and a figure was destroyed you could put both Transform and Archmage's assault on the stack. Resolve them in the order you want, and then even though she now has Howl, it is past the time for that to trigger (since the end step has already begun) and her turn ends.
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Re: AotP Question Dump

Thanks Kajoq. I hope you are correct. This game has shown NOT to follow the card game in regards to rulings before though (look at life drain in AotP and how you only gain life equal to the life lost, rather than wounds inflicted). I think what you said makes sense.

And in regards to Ever After they have put the word "immediately" on cards before, like the Blazing Firecats. So that made me think this was different.
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