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Old July 14th, 2008, 01:38 PM
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Fire Line + Explosion = Pest Control

Certain figures have powers or Special Attacks that are affected by your opponent's figures' positions. The most obvious would be the explosion-type attack, i.e. Shotgun or Majestic Fires. There's another Special Attack that effectively relies on your opponent's positioning: Mimring's Fire Line. Now how would an army including Mimring and Zelrig work?

Your opponent knows better than to keep his figures adjacent because of Zelrig, but the process of spacing these figures out could very well leave them vulnerable to a Fire Line.

If nothing else, using Mimring alongside a figure with an explosion attack would at least control your opponent's movement. As I've always said, the action that your opponent does NOT want you to make is definitely a good move and possibly the best move you could make. This line of thinking may be applicable, since you're dictating where your opponent may safely position his figures.

This is all speculatory right now - maybe some of you have had some experience with this type of situation. Comments?

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Old July 14th, 2008, 02:11 PM
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Re: Fire Line + Explosion = Paralysis?

One of my opponents did that to me once, way back in the beggining of the game. Deathwalker 9k made me keep them apart, and then my opponent only used Mimring's Fire Line to keep me from getting to good areas or escaping, i.e. the high ground.

It was actually good, but there's not much else you can do but use those two once it starts. My opponent tried to move someone else to help out, and I managed to get a squad of figures engaged with 9k, making his power useless, since it hurts him too.

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Re: Fire Line + Explosion = Paralysis?

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150 Mimring
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100 2x Warriors of Ashra
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185 Zelrig
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Re: Fire Line + Explosion = Paralysis?

Shackle, this really sounds like well-conceived tag-team. In the past, I've perpetrated a shutout with a Braxas/Nilfheim combo (yes, in a 500 pt army. I was feeling extravagant). I hope this is another winning dragon team- it certainly brings enough fire to the battle.

My only concern with this pair would be stat-heavy uniques. Anything with decent stats that aren't affected by Majestic Fires will give this duo a problem. Drake and the Kozuke come to mind. Also, figures with dangerous Special Abilities, like Sujoah's Poison Sting, could be a problem. Anything that hits fast and hard could cripple this pair, especially since they aren't cheap.

But that's just me over-thinking your great idea. Counter-drafting comes later. This is a great start to a team that I would strongly consider naming "Pest Control."
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Old July 14th, 2008, 05:48 PM
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Re: Fire Line + Explosion = Paralysis?

I second the Pest Control name!

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Re: Fire Line + Explosion = Pest Control

In response to Velenne's thread about "quitting" when facing both the 4th Mass and the 10th Foot, (Sorry, don't know how to link to a thread), Rodriquez and I decided to test out that army.

Rodriquez fielded 2 or 3 squads of 4th Mass and 3 or 4 squads of 10th Foot (I don't recall the exact numbers). Anyways, in response to that I decided to use Mimring and Zelrig (plus Kaemon and the Zettians).

I intended to use Mimring first, followed by Zelrig, mainly because with 3 defense, I figured Mimring wouldn't last as long as Zelrig. In hindsight, I think I should've started with Zelrig, and then finished with Mimring. As it was, the WTF aspect of both of his units did me in. Rolling no defense for Mimring hurt too.

All that being said, it was a fun army to play, I just played it wrong. I maybe should've tag-teamed them. And the thing is, even though I lost, I still managed to toast all but 1 or 2 4th Mass and a couple squads of the 10th Foot. I realize the 4th / 10th was an extreme build, and we just wanted to test it out, but the Mimring / Zelrig combo didn't do bad - it just didn't do well. (At least in my hands against that particular army).

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Re: Fire Line + Explosion = Pest Control

When I got my first Master Set, I would team up DW9K and Mimring all the time for this sort of control.

I agree that any time you can influence your opponent's range of acceptable moves you are doing well.


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Re: Fire Line + Explosion = Pest Control

Basing this group off of a 500 point build, you're only left with 165 points to work with...hmmm

These are the complimenting combos that come to mind...

100 Krav Maga Agents
060 Zetacron

090 Crixus
075 James Murphy

120 Kaemon Awa
030 Eldgrim (glyph grabber)
010 Isamu

080 Arrow Gruts x2
025 Swog Rider
060 Zetacron

150 Major Q10
010 Isamu

150 Cyprien Esenwein
010 Isamu

All of these combos are decent with order markers and add to what the two fire dragons need, decent hero killers.

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Re: Fire Line + Explosion = Pest Control

I would also consider Arrow Gruts x2 Swog Rider x3 and Isamu. Though you don't have as much of a hero killer anywhere in that build. Still, it seems almost a shame to field Mimring without his complementary Arrow Gruts, and almost a shame to field Arrow Gruts with only one Swog Rider. But if I were going uber competitive I'd probably swap Zelrig out for Nilfheim anyway, and at that point we're abandoning the focus of this thread all together.

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