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Old July 25th, 2014, 02:51 AM
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The Book of Knights of Blackgaard

The Book of Knights of Blackgaard

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The figures used for this unit are Aasimar Fighter #1 from the D&D War of the Dragon Queen set, Phalanx Soldier #7 from the D&D Unhallowed set, Axe Soldier #4 from the D&D War Drums set, and Royal Guard #28 from the D&D Underdark set.


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Not many forces have stood against the legendary Knights of Weston, fewer have matched them in combat. And even fewer than that, indeed only one force, has ever made the valiant knights know fear: the Knights of Blackgaard.

Though slow on the march, when the Knights of Blackgaard enter battle, they surge forward with deadly energy that only grows stronger as the battle heightens. A deadly force in and of themselves, the Knights of Blackgaard are even more relentless in battle when joined by those who share their rage.

Utgar has found an army of men who match his own ferocity, and now Valhalla trembles.

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BLACKGAARD SURGE
If no Knights of Blackgaard you control are engaged, you must subtract 3 from your initiative roll. If at least one Order Marker is on the Knights of Blackgaard, you may add 1 to your initiative roll for each engaged Knight of Blackgaard you control.

RELENTLESS ARMY ATTACK BONUS
If every army card you control has a relentless personality, each Knight of Blackgaard receives one additional attack die.
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Synergy Benefits Received
- KHOSUMET THE DARKLORD : Relentless Assault
As a figure with the relentless personality, Knights of Blaackgard may roll 1 extra die from Khosumet the Darklord's RELENTLESS ASSAULT enhancement bonus.

- RELENTLESS ARMY ATTACK BONUS : Relentless Personality Units
* Air Elemental
* Anubian Wolves
* Armoc Vipers
* Augamo
* Azazel the Kyrie Warrior
* Boreos
* Darkprowl Thrall
* Dumutef Guard
* Khosumet the Darklord
* Kon-Tar-Na
* Krug
* Marro Gnids
* Minions of Utgar
* Red Ants of Aunstrom
* Sir Hawthorne
* Skull Demon
* Sujoah
* Taelord the Kyrie Warrior
* Varkaanan Blade Dancers
* Venoc Vipers
* Venoc Warlord
* Vulcanmech Incendiborgs
* Werewolf Lord
* Wolves of Badru

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Old July 25th, 2014, 02:52 AM
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Re: The Book of the Knights of Blackgaard

Now that the Book is done what's the sweetspot for these guys? At there expensive cost how many squads are usually ran in a standard 500-750 point game?

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Old July 25th, 2014, 04:31 AM
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Re: The Book of the Knights of Blackgaard

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Now that the Book is done what's the sweetspot for these guys? At there expensive cost how many squads are usually ran in a standard 500-750 point game?
My theoryscape guess is anywhere from 3 to 4 squads, because the majority of relentless units are melee anyways, so unless you wanted to roll with incendies in there too, theres not much reason to actually put in anything else. Incend plus Taelord and 2 squads is an interesting 600 pointer though. Some 500 point army musings:
KoB x2
Incendiborgs
Khoshumet(Armocs?)
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485/495

This would probably be my go to build with them. If you could squeeze in another squad with incendies they'd be ridiculous.
Heres an obvious one for theme:
Hawthorne
KoB x3
Dumetef x2
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500
I think its a little depressing how relatively unsynergistic these guys are with Hawthrone. Thats probably my only critisicm.

Last one that really intruges me right now is a VV one....
KoB x2
VV x4
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Set everyone up. Hit init switch on your command. Don't play against range. (I don't think venocs really like these guys, I'd rather put OMs on them.)

Actually, this army is one I really want to try:
Raelin SOTM
KoB x3
Dumetef(if points allow)
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480/505
Set up the KoB in RaeRae aura, they rush her in and get off lots of whirlwinds and make her impossible to ignore.

Best army for them, I bet (at 500) and the reason they are 120 points, is:
KoB x4.

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I think its a little depressing how relatively unsynergistic these guys are with Hawthrone. Thats probably my only critisicm.
I agree entirely - these guys are really cool, but they really should have worked with Hawthorne in some way other than just being able to be paired with him and still get their relentless bonus, IMO. These guys are actually one of Hawthorne's worst allies, because they can't bond with him and anyone who can isn't relentless, making Hawthorne a terrible pick with these guys, as he's really at hs best as a bonding hero. Please tell me that there'll be a Relentless unit down the line, hopefully with this theme, who synergises with Hawthorne.


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Re: The Book of the Knights of Blackgaard

Extra Attack Dice Don't Cost THAT much!

Knights of Blackgaard x2 240
Taelord 420
Khosumet 495

Or, rather...

Knights of Blackgaard x2 240
Havech Eradicators x2 420
Khosumet 495

Which option would be better? The second one seems to fill out start zone spaces more.

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Re: The Book of the Knights of Blackgaard

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Extra Attack Dice Don't Cost THAT much!

Knights of Blackgaard x2 240
Taelord 420
Khosumet 495

Or, rather...

Knights of Blackgaard x2 240
Havech Eradicators x2 420
Khosumet 495

Which option would be better? The second one seems to fill out start zone spaces more.
The second option. I'm afraid Khosumet is a terrible option in any army that doesn't include the Anubian Wolves.

Taelord would be fun to pair with them.

Maybe Taelord + Raelin + 2xKoB. They get 4 attack, 6 defense until Raelin goes down, at which point they go to 5 attack, 4 defense. Not super competitive. Their best option with Taelord would probably require higher point values.

I'm pretty sure these guys are best when paired with Vulcanmechs.

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I think its a little depressing how relatively unsynergistic these guys are with Hawthrone. Thats probably my only critisicm.
I agree entirely - these guys are really cool, but they really should have worked with Hawthorne in some way other than just being able to be paired with him and still get their relentless bonus, IMO. These guys are actually one of Hawthorne's worst allies, because they can't bond with him and anyone who can isn't relentless, making Hawthorne a terrible pick with these guys, as he's really at hs best as a bonding hero. Please tell me that there'll be a Relentless unit down the line, hopefully with this theme, who synergises with Hawthorne.
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I think its a little depressing how relatively unsynergistic these guys are with Hawthrone. Thats probably my only critisicm.
I agree entirely - these guys are really cool, but they really should have worked with Hawthorne in some way other than just being able to be paired with him and still get their relentless bonus, IMO. These guys are actually one of Hawthorne's worst allies, because they can't bond with him and anyone who can isn't relentless, making Hawthorne a terrible pick with these guys, as he's really at hs best as a bonding hero. Please tell me that there'll be a Relentless unit down the line, hopefully with this theme, who synergises with Hawthorne.
Any thoughts on this?
Looks like nobody so far has had any thoughts on that which they found worth sharing.

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Re: The Book of the Knights of Blackgaard

I think Utgar Human Champion Bonding would have been cool, and could have added a nice touch to them. I am guessing it was tested though and found to be too powerful?

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I think Utgar Human Champion Bonding would have been cool, and could have added a nice touch to them. I am guessing it was tested though and found to be too powerful?
3x KoB and Vulcanmech is strong; I playtested them and they dominated the KoW on Dry Season. That was when they were 110/115 points.

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I think Utgar Human Champion Bonding would have been cool, and could have added a nice touch to them. I am guessing it was tested though and found to be too powerful?
I don't remember it, but it might have been in the initial playtests. To be honest I think people underestimate them too much. 8 attacks of 4 (or 5 from height) on back to back turns can be brutal and really decimate things.

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