The Book of Omni-Man

[IAmBatman]

Sweet! Home sweet home.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by 1Mmirg

I'm sorry but I have zero knowledge of Invincible (besides his C3G card and quick Google). But I'll offer a thought or two, fwiw.

Sounds like a beast. This guy won't be toyed with, for sure. He's up there with the very strongest of all Unique Heroes in the C3G. Must be quite the presence in the Invincible comics. An alpha-figure.

Thanks for sharing your work, V

He's definitely beastly in the comics, so that fits, haha!

[Hahma]

He's going to kick Superman and Thor's ass every which way from Sunday. He's more powerful then them for sure with this power-set, so 420 will be a short-lived cost for him as it should go way up.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by Hahma

He's going to kick Superman and Thor's ass every which way from Sunday. He's more powerful then them for sure with this power-set, so 420 will be a short-lived cost for him as it should go way up.

I can re-add the unengaged restriction again if you're worried. I did testing on his a while back with that plus the 8 space straight line movement, and he was pretty equal with Superman 1.0. I plan on doing the initial tonight, so I'll see what works.

[Hahma]

Well 3 special attacks of 6 in one turn will totally bypass Man of Steel, whereas Supes 1.0 will only get one normal attack of 7 that will most of the time result in a max of 1 wound on Omni-Man. Not to mention Omni-Man has 1 more life and will heal each round when he has 4 or more wounds. The only way Supes 1.0 will have a chance is if Omni-Man whiffs defense rolls vs. huge attacks. That will be the exception, not the rule though.

Vs. Thor, same deal with OM having 3 attacks of 6 vs. Thor's single normal attack of 8 or a puny special attack. Same amount of lives and normal attack and OM can heal.

Vs. Supes 2.0, they have same lives and normal attack, but OM still has 3 special attacks of 6 to bypass Man of Steel and Supes 2.0 only has Heat Vision to bypass Viltrumite Endurance, but HV isn't exactly a huge attack generally and still nowhere in the same universe as powerful as Omni-Assault.

Vs. Hulk, 3 attacks of 6 can load Hulk up with wounds quick and Hulk can only mostly put 1 wound on OM at a time.

I don't know this guy from Adam, but for those that know a lot about him and that comic, as long as you guys are fine with him being at this power level, that's cool, but his cost is certainly going to be up past Supes 2.0 IMO.

[Lord Pyre]

The unengagement thing is pretty huge for him, preventing him from using the ability. I'll add it back in for the test.

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, that'd definitely be a huge factor in how he tests against other heavy hitters, as requiring him to not be engaged would make it a ton harder to pull off more than once per match.

[Lord Pyre]

Yep, it was big in my last tests. Still working on the initial, hopefully will be done by tomorrow. The modem came in the mail today, and my dad is stopping by to set it up, woohoo!

Also, last ERB from Porkins. He must be unaware that we designed Invincible.

Originally Posted by Porkins

I was on vacation with no interenet access, so this is a bit late; I hope it's still useful.

My first impression is that 8 Life/6 Defense and Viltrumite Endurance (which is really a conglomeration of 2 powers: one shield defense and a healing factor) may be too powerful. And I think I would separate Vilt Endurance into two powers.

[SirGalahad]

VILTRUMITE ENDURANCE
When defending against a normal attack from a figure who that is not a Viltrumite, if at least one shield is rolled, the most wounds Omni-Man can take from this attack is one. At the start of any round, if there are 4 or more wounds on this card, you may remove 1 Wound Marker from this card.

OMNI-ASSAULT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1, Attack 6.
Instead of moving and attacking normally with Omni-Man, you may move Omni-Man up to 4 spaces. At any point during or after the movement, Omni-Man may attack with his Omni-Assault Special Attack up to 3 times.

Are we still keeping the clause about needing to be on a space where he can end his movement?

[IAmBatman]

Hmm, since he can fly, that's probably a good idea ....

[A3n]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Hmm, since he can fly, that's probably a good idea ....

Agreed.

[Lord Pyre]

Not real happy with these tests. At first he was dominating the Heavy hitter tests, so I dropped his SA down to 5 dice instead of 6, and tested against some more powerful people, and he seemed more balanced. But his SA is really not that good. He has to be so close to use it, so that if he sets up for it, it's REALLY easy for an opponent to just move someone next to him to stop it. I think a cost of 430-440 would be good if we change the move for the SA to 6.

Also, sorry for the lackluster battle reports. We were trying to set up internet, the company told us there was faulty wiring in our apartment, then it magically started working, but only on my wife's laptop. My computer can't get on the net. Also our router doesn't seem to be compatible, so there's no hope of me getting on the internet with my own computer for probably at least a month before we can afford to buy a new router. So yeah, I was testing in between everything and my mind has been scattered. I hate technology. And my wife's computer, ugh.



C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Omni-Man

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? No
- What should be the unit's point value? 450+
- Give a brief overview. His power level is just too high in these tests. Adjusting some numbers and going to try again.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Graviton
Graviton just chucked him back and forth, keeping him close so he can’t use his Omni-Assault, but Omni-Man’s attack was just too great.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man wins with 5 wounds

TEST 2
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Graviton
Graviton whiffed his defense roll and died in round 1 defending against his second attack.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 2 wounds

TEST 3
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Superman 1.0
Omni-Man grabbed height for most of the game, and it took about 5-6 rounds for him to finally wear out Superman, and it took a couple or 7-8 skull attacks to do so.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 6 wounds.

TEST 4
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Superman
Superman died to a 7 skull attack and a totally whiffed defense roll. L
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 0 wounds

TEST 5
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell)
Very close match! Marvel’s counterstrike is nasty and his normal ranged attack was enough to wear down Omni-Man over time, but not enough to win.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 7 wounds.

TEST 6
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Captain Marvel
Omni-Man simply had better dice rolls.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 4 wounds.

TEST 7
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Darkseid
DS kept disengaging to use his SA, but simply got beaten down.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 3 wounds.

TEST 8
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Darkseid
Omni-Man pulverized him with an Omni-Assault.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 0 wounds.

TEST 9
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Thor
Took three rounds of piddling away at Thor’s life and Thor not breaking OM’s 6 defense…
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 1 wound.

TEST 10
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Loki
Loki’s God of Evil power coupled with a whiffed defense roll gives Loki the victory.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Loki with 5 wounds.

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 440-450
- Give a brief overview. He was a lot closer to these higher powered guys. His SA having only 5 attack helped a ton.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Graviton
Same story as last time, really.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man wins with 5 wounds

TEST 2
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Thor
Thor’s lack of a defensive ability doesn’t let him stand up to Omni-Man
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 4 wounds

TEST 3
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Superman 2.0
Superman’s Heat Vision takes out most of Omni-Man’s life, and finishes him off with a normal attack.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Superman with 3 wounds.

TEST 4
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Superman
Superman didn’t hit any decent Heat Vision rolls, and Omni-Man’s defensive ability let him outlast Superman.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 5 wounds.

TEST 5
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Superman
Superman rolls a 7 skull Heat Vision and obliterates Omni-Man!
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Superman with 1 wound.

TEST 6
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Destroyer Armor
Very close. The Destroyer doesn’t have a Special Attack to get through OM’s defenses, but his Ray certainly helped a bit.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Destroyer with 7 wounds.

TEST 7
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Destroyer Armor
Having extremely similar stats allows these to be close games.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 6 wounds.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 445
- Give a brief overview. .
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: SHIELD Agents x4

Spoiler Alert!

He only got off an Omni-Assault a couple of times. The Agents kept the heat up, keeping this very close.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 7 wounds.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 445
- Give a brief overview. .
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Parademon Shock Troopers x5 +1

Spoiler Alert!

The Parademons only hit their Apokoliptian weaponry roll at the beginning, giving Omni-Man 5 wounds, but they missed every single attack since, and OM healed back up to three as he picked them off one by one.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Omni-Man with 3 wounds.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? No
- What should be the unit's point value? Not very high.
- Give a brief overview. Very poor showing for Omni-Man. He couldn’t roll any attack dice. Black Widow took him out with no problem! He didn’t have a chance to use Omni-Assault. Whenever he was within the 4 spaces, the opponent got in close to prevent it.
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Omni-Man, Red Tornado, AIM Agents x3 (955) Vs. Nick Fury, Shield Agents x4, Black Widow, Mockingbird (960)

Spoiler Alert!

RT flies some AIMs up, Mockingbird manages to kill three in one turn. Omni-Man flies up and kills an agent. BW hits Omni-Man for a wound. RT tries to blow people away from Omni-Man, but the Agents keep on coming. Widow and the Agents deal a few wounds to Omni-Man, leaving him at 6 wounds. He disengages and flies behind the wall. Red Tornado whiffed defense twice against the Agents, giving him 5 wounds. Omni-Man flies to Widow on height in the middle, and deals a wound. Shield Agents shoot a Kill Box at RT rolling 7 skulls, finishing him off. Omni-Man attacks Black Widow twice, but her Close Combat Expert helps keep her alive, and she kills Omni-Man on R3 T2 while only taking 2 wounds from him. Omni-Man loses a turn. After that Mockingbird and the Agents cleaned up the AIM Agents.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? SHIELD wins. Two Agents down, and Black Widow had two wounds. Everyone else was fine.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 400
- Give a brief overview. He had some bad luck again, but DID take out Cap and Thor. The Criminals weren’t much backup for him, both being killed in one turn each. Omni-Man is tough, but his Special Attack isn’t nearly as good as it first seemed. I reduced the attack on it by one, and I don’t think it’d be overpowered at all at 6 again, since the 4 move is such a huge penalty for him.
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Omni-Man, Shocker, Electro, Lexcorp Security x 2 (1000) Vs. Captain America, Thor, Deadshot, Punisher (1000)

Spoiler Alert!

The Lexcorp and Shocker move up. Cap and Deadshot move up. Deadshot misses Omni-Man. Deadshot snipes Shocker, and kills him in one hit. Omni-Man uses Omni-Assault on Cap, but doesn’t roll more than 1 skull on each attack. Cap misses, Omni-Man disengages. Punisher’s Rocket misses Omni-Man. Omni-Man’s Omni-Assault totally misses Cap again. Lexcorp on height can’t hit Cap, either. Punisher’s rocket hits Omni-Man for a wound. Omni-Man rolls a single skull to attack Cap… Thor hits Omni-Man again. Omni-Man finally rolls 7 skulls, and kills Cap in one hit!
Omni-Man disengages and runs away. Punisher misses some Lexcorp. A Lexcorp hits Punisher for a wound. Thor kills a Lexcorp. Omni-Assault hits Thor for a wound. Thor’s God of Thunder Strike kills a Lexcorp. Punisher kills Electro in one turn with him Assault Rifle. Thor and Omni-Man duke it out for a round. Omni-Man takes out Thor, as Punisher misses all his rockets at Omni-Man. Omni-Man Assaults Punisher, dealing a wound, and Punisher takes out Omni-Man with his Rifle. Punisher and Deadshot miss the last two Lexcorp as Omni-Man lost his turns. Punisher then kills one Lexcorp as all their attacks miss, and Deadshot snipes the last one.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Punisher with 2 wounds, and full health Deadshot.