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Old May 11th, 2012, 05:15 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

"must be able to" is different than the "must" implied in Clyemne's Captain's Assault wording.

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Old May 11th, 2012, 05:24 PM
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I think one could argue that the Kozuke establish a certain precedent for this. (Though in their case, it's a bit ambiguous, since much depends on how one interprets "must be able": does it require that one be able to guarantee the result, or only require that one be able to pursue that result?)

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"must be able to" is different than the "must" implied in Clyemne's Captain's Assault wording.

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Not sure, cmgames. Depends on how one interprets the Kozuke's power.

Say a Kozuke wants to use Charging Assault to move adjacent to an enemy's figure who is 9 spaces away, and the only way to get to that figure is to cross a Molten Lava hex 7 spaces away. Can he use Charging Assault? Depends on whether you interpret "must be able" to mean that he must be able to guarantee the result of ending the movement adjacent to the enemy (which in this case clearly he cannot do, since he has a 19/20 chance of dying first), or whether he need only possess the potential for it (regardless of whether fate would actually allow it to be realized or not if put to the test).
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Old May 11th, 2012, 05:36 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Based on the rulings in the Kozuke's book the Kozkue figure has to end its move standing next to an opponent's figure otherwise it does not get to add three. So in the lava example no the Kozuke would not get to use charging assault.

In the book someone asked if they could use the Charging Assault to add three if they were going to pass by a figure within the 9 spaces so basically the potential to end adjacent was there but if they chose not to could they still get the plus three and everyone there seemed to agree that no the Kozuke could not use the plus three unless it realized the potential to end on the space. We should probably move this out of the SOV thread now.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

The Kozuke does establish a precedent, though I really hate that power because I feel it's unclear. It does use the wording "must be able to", which is different than "must" (though apparently means "must" to some extent...), which opens the door for failing attempts like getting killed by a leaving engagement attack.

The biggest difference is that Charging Assault is a bonus during the move phase which is the same time the power takes affect. It's still a future thing, where the +3 happens before the figure actually moves, but at least it's in the same phase. Captain's Assault gives Clyemne a turn, and all the stuff a turn entails (like triggering Thanos's Rejected by Death, for example), with a restriction that occurs during her movement phase. That's a bigger deal to me than the +3 move Charging Assault gives.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I would like to re-submit my custom here for nomination (for the third and final time ), with the changes suggested:

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I have to vote NO on Ocelot .

After a preliminary inquiry into the availability, I found only 5 after checking six different online stores. That is way too low for a SoV nomination.
I agree that the figure is allittle hard to find but it can be found in a few different colors with the same figure. So availability shouldn't be to terrible. But I understand if that's an issue. In which case I'm possibly willing to pick an easier to find miniature.

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Old May 11th, 2012, 05:52 PM
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I agree that the figure is allittle hard to find but it can be found in a few different colors with the same figure. So availability shouldn't be to terrible. But I understand if that's an issue. In which case I'm possibly willing to pick an easier to find miniature.
With all the color combinations I've found a dozen or so on a few sites, but that's still not enough. Regardless, please list figure availability along with unit submissions. It is up to the submitter to prove the figure has high enough availability to be considered, not up to the judges to see if we can find enough.

Given the availability I've seen, I'm going to vote NO as well. If someone can prove better availability, I am willing to reconsider.
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Is my browser failing to update something? It looks exactly the same as last time.
Your right, I put the old card up by accident. It is fixed now (sorry for the confusion).
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

35pts still feels high for a single-attacking 3/3 common melee hero, but it's at least close.

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