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Old August 9th, 2011, 02:56 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I do like the choice of the figure used.

The card doesn't specify a size for the mini used and isn't quite polished.

Sorry, TD, I will have to vote NO to review the Minotaur Champion.

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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:29 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

How big is "Large X"? Looks unfinished...

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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:34 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Sorry, but the Minotaur Champion is an unfinished card and my vote is NO to reveiw

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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:57 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I look at this figure and I just don't see any vulnerability. Tough, 3 defense and 6 life will make him last a long time against squads, and the Wild Swing Special Attack gives him a passable anti-squad attack. His normal attack of 6 + Bloodlust make him a hero killer par excellence. He gets all the large immunities, too. One thing I like about this game is the paper-scissors-rock element, and this guy doesn't quite fit in. Even if he gets negated by Morsbane, he's a force to be reckoned with. I vote NO to review Minotaur Champion.

And for the record: I'll vote against reviewing any unit that's submitted without a playtest summary. I want to know the good strategies, army combinations and game formats for each unit up front, along with notable weaknesses or blind spots the unit has. They're all supposed to have been playtested before submission, and it makes my job easier if I know ahead of time some specifics to look for.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 04:32 PM
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Old August 9th, 2011, 06:36 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Well, Bloodlust plus a base attack of 6 certainly makes this guy's personality accurate, but any unit with a placeholder for a stat is a pretty easy decision. Even disregarding that, I'm a little concerned about this guy's power level, as enumerated by Elginb (easy potential for 10 attack! )

I vote NO to review Minotaur Champion by The Doctor.

Minotaur Champion by The Doctor has received 4 NO votes to review (Elginb, Killometer, Lamaclown, ZBeeblebrox) and is removed from the process.

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Old August 10th, 2011, 09:13 AM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I like the idea of this guy The Doctor, I hope you refine it a little, do some play-testing and resubmit. I think there is a good Scape unit in there somewhere, just not quite yet.

Also, some more info about the mini is also needed. Where to get it, how many are generally available, and a comparison shot (for extra points) if you have the ability.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I would like to nominate my Beakface Sneaks.

  • The two figures for the squad are D&D minis (the Kenku Sneak from Deathknell and Kenku Warrior from Lords of Madness). Auggies currently has 90 of the Sneak for $0.99 and 74 of the Warrior for $0.39. So for less than $11 you should be able to get 5 squads of these guys.
  • Kenkus are D&D's bird people. I have only encountered them in the old PC game Eye of the Beholder. I that game they cast Magic Missile and would swarm your party.
  • My intent in designing this unit was first to present a common squad that would not have the availiblity problems that my Crypt Guards had. Second, I want to create a cheap squad that did not rely on a bonding power to be useful. To fit with that premise and the concept of Kenkus, I designed Flocking. It is like the Zombie's Horde Movement, but requires one of the Sneaks to have attacked. Potentially you could move 2 Sneaks, attack with those 2 Sneaks, and then move 2 other Sneaks. I knew that the Sneaks would be vulnerable while moving to attack, so I gave the Evasion 3. Being bird people I believe they should be able to better dodge ranged attacks. Gliding is their last power. Bird people shouldn't take fall damage even if they can't fly.
  • In limit play testing, they proved effective against low life and defense heroes with a single attack like Darrak and Ana. But Tandros and Everan tore them up. I ran them against the Battle for the Underdark party since I mainly intend for them to be used in dungeon crawls. I don't imagine that the Sneaks are a squad that you could build a tournament winning army around, but they could fill in some gaps with their low cost.

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Old August 10th, 2011, 12:11 PM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Interesting. My first reaction was that 30 points seems a bit low for a squad (even of just two figures), but after reading the powers carefully it might just work. I feel that in the end I may still agree that they're priced too low but I want to see.

The availability is great and the powers are easy to understand.

Yes to review Beakface Sneaks.

One note though, under the Glide ability it should say 'falling damage' instead of 'fall damage,' an easy fix... I think.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I like the feel of these units. Love the Flocking power and feel like there is real potential here. Like nyys, I am nervous about there points, but only having two attacks/round does help a bit.

Can you say more about your tests?

Just theoryscaping, these guys seem like the best (rough) comparison in Scape would be a 3-man melee squad. Sure, you might move 4 in a given turn, but you can never attack with more than 2. The move is nice and high, the Evasion (and high move) helps them to stay in the game until they get to attack, which is a respectable 3 (and then they move in more friends). I'm a bit nervous seeing these guys as being (using my rough comparison to a 3-man squad) 10-15 points a piece.

Anyhow, I think I like them, but I'd like to hear more before I cast my vote.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I updated Glide from "fall" to "falling". As far as my tests, I have used 4 squads of Sneaks with Feral Troll against Tandros, Darrak, Ana, and Everan on the Descending Stairs. In one test I led with the Troll and the other with the Sneaks. In the first test the Sneaks performed better because the Troll held Tandros in place, so they could go after Ana and Darrak. But in both cases Everan destroyed several Sneaks with great rolls for Fire Blast.
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