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Old January 22nd, 2011, 07:48 PM
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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

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They both look good to me. LD's call IMO.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 09:41 PM
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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

I only picked the 2nd one beacause I think the face on the 1st one looks dorky.

By the way, first playtest results are in:

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C3G PLAY TEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE TEST UNIT LOKI

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS (Minor quibble, though, since there's nowhere else to put it - I feel his name should be Loki, with Loki Lauffeyson as his Secret Identity, like Thor/Thor Odinson. To keep consistent and such.)

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
PASS

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS (If you're feeling lucky - I think in most cases, though, Superman is a much better choice for a good deal less.)

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS

- Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero/ Does it pass? PASS. (Yeah, wins some, loses some. VERY tricky customer, though, where a stray die roll can turn the match upside-down. But 420 is about right.)
Spoiler Alert!

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- Squad / Does it pass? PASS. (He's definitely not built for crowd control, and I expected this to be a slaughter... but he did very well for himself, and it definitely could have gone either way.)
Map: Turret Rocks
Units: Loki vs. SHIELD Agents x4 (440 Points)
Spoiler Alert!

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- Army Test/ Does it pass? PASS. (While the Punisher was the real star of the story, Loki definitely pulled his weight, taking down Deadpool and the Joker while helping with the Creeper and Green Goblin. Some REAL good luck for Team Loki, but otherwise, it felt pretty fair.)
Map: Turret Rocks
Units: Loki, Echo, Punisher, Robin: Tim Drake, Civilians x2 (940 Points) vs. The Joker, Deadpool, Green Goblin, The Creeper, Harley Quinn (940 Points)
Spoiler Alert!

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- Army Test/ Does it pass? FAIL. (Really didn't pull his weight. God of Evil barely ever worked, and his defense just couldn't stand up to all the heavy hitters. He's a very uneven figure - if he's on a roll he's AMAZING, but if not, he's pretty useless against anyone with over 4 Defense.)
Map: Turret Rocks
Units: Loki, Red Skull, Blob, Toad, Venom, The Joker, Deadpool (1495 Points) vs. Superman, Batman, Martian Manhunter, Flash, Green Lantern: Hal Jordan (1500 Points)
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FINAL THOUGHTS: He doesn't feel too far off, but I think he might be a tad overcosted. Maybe bring him down to 410 or something like that; he's certainly draftable at 420, but man, it can be a gamble.
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 10:55 PM
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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

I think with more and more X-Marker synergies to come, the 420 cost is a nice cushion.

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Old January 22nd, 2011, 10:58 PM
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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

Johnny did a great job here I think. Loki doesn't seem to be swingy from what I can tell, he just happens to be a paper in a world of rocks, scissors, and paper - sometimes he will have good match ups and sometimes he won't. The question is, "where does that put his cost?".
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Old January 22nd, 2011, 11:00 PM
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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

I think I'm fairly in agreement with Johnny here ... he's worth about 410 ... unless you really exploit his X-Markers, in which case ... 420. Of course, the design has changed since I tested him ...

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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

I definitely say stick with 420 just in case of future powers.

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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Loki

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
pass

- Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero/ Does it pass, Yes or No? What should be the unit's point value? Give a brief summary. Yes, at about 420. He seems rather niche. He has his moments, but it depends mostly on your roll.

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- Squad / Does it pass, Yes or No? What should be the unit's point value? Give a brief summary. Yes, at about 420. He held his own fairly well, but didn't have very good rolls
Map: Turret Rocks
Units: Loki Vs. 7x Stingers

Spoiler Alert!





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- Army Test/ Does it pass, Yes or No? What should be the unit's point value? Give a brief summary. Yes, at 420. He really fills out an army.
Map: Turret Rocks
Units: Elektra, Bullseye, 7xHand Ninjas(940) Vs. Loki, Nightcrawler, Thaal Sinestro, Boob, Spotter(940)

Spoiler Alert!


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- Army Test/ Does it pass, Yes or No? What should be the unit's point value? Give a brief summary. Yes, at $20. He really added some strategy with the Om placements.
Map: Turret Rocks
Units: Thor, Batman, Green Arrow Connor, Green Arrow Oliver, SHIELD Sniper, SHIELD Spotter(1000) Vs. Loki, Punisher, Huntress, Daredevil, 2x Shield Spotter(1000)

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He's ok one on one, but it really depends on the rolls. Against squads he fairs ok, but unless he can get his rolls he's toast. In an army is where he really shines. Overall he was very thematic for the God of Trickery, Mischief, and Evil. I loved the design, and can't wait for his release.
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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

I'm still liking him at 420.
Highlights of that test were when LP said Loki should cost $20 and when he teamed Loki with "Boob." You're a riot, LP.

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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

420 is sounding right to me, too.
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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

Is that a proposal? Because you've got my yea for final editing.

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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

How did you guys feel about that last army test?

Shouldn't we be assessing all the required data before voting?
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Re: The Book of Loki - VOTE for PLAYTESTING

That is odd, now the last army test's spoiler is working. A few minutes ago, it was broken.
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