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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla-nominations and discussion

Well everyone has said what is wrong. Eremon is too powerful at only 90.

I vote NO to review Eremon

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Old December 1st, 2010, 12:00 AM
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla-nominations and discussion

clancampbell's Eremon has received more than 3 NO votes, and is removed from the process.

@dok-I've been worried about 60 point bonding (strictly theoryscape worries so far, I haven't begun to test your ZH yet), so I definitely appreciate your analysis of your custom and your design decisions to give me an overview of it as I move into playing it.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla-nominations and discussion

Killo,

You need to update the OP with the latest info.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla-nominations and discussion

What am I missing?

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla-nominations and discussion

Oh. I see. I was looking for the four votes yes, 1 vote no, etc. for Blood Raptor, but now I see that that was to move it from 'pending acceptance for review' into 'being reviewed'.

Never mind.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla-nominations and discussion

No worries. I'm glad to see that people have my back with this-I'm bound to miss a vote or two eventually.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Just a random suggestion guys....

I'm seeing a lot of units turned down from review because the point costs aren't right. Do you think there would be some benefit to submitting units without a Point cost (or maybe just a suggested point cost), and hashing that out in playtesting?

For instance, I really like the theory behind Eremon, and it kinda sucks that he won't be playtested because of his point cost unless he is resubmitted....

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

We've discussed that a little 'off-thread' and right now we really want submisisons of units that the designer considers a finished product.

If a designer is unsure of the points cost (or simply wants reassurance) then CHCG24 is a great place to run the unit through the gauntlet before submitting to the SoV. I might go as far as to say that before submitting a unit for SoV review, one should submit their unit to the CHCG24 first.

I think there was plenty of encouragement to give Eremon a quick points tweak and resubmit. Hint hint clam...

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

CHCG24 is too long an acronym to subject my customs through.

That is a great suggestion overall nyys.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Yup. I don't think we've seen the last of Eremon, or at least, I hope not.

But this is not meant to be a place to bring an unfinished product. I confess I did prickle when SWAT Team was nominated. That was clearly not a card that had been "finished" in any meaningful way, and we are not here to workshop.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

I may be speaking out of turn, but what I'm looking for is a price tag that seems to careful reflect a look at other units in Scape and some playtesting. We'll cross the bridge later of a unit that is 10 points off, but right now, I'm saying no to units that look more than 10 points off (or have clear analogs in Scape that they would eclipse at their current points).

Just like in the BoV, some maps are incredibly close. They are told they are missing one thing, and then they come back and pass quickly. But the key is to be incredibly close. Then I'm happy to review the unit.
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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion



Gor'Vath by robbdaman is an absolute beast! (Pun only slightly intended ) I have been playtesting him a lot over the last two weeks, and I absolutely love him. He goes toe-to-toe and blow-for-blow against Krug and Jotun, the Kings of Melee, and Fetid's Defense penalty unshackles the Arrow Gruts from Swog Rider adjacency. Gor'Vath + Arrows x3 is a neat, inexpensive package that leaves plenty of room, both in points and hexes, to get creative. Tough usually helps keep him alive to engage ranged threats, but my condolences to anyone who fields this guy across from one of the Q brothers.

Unfortunately, the combination of Fetid's Attack penalty, and the guaranteed Shield from Tough means that he is literally unbeatable to any melee unit with a base attack of 3 or less and no Special Attack, unless they have some help (height, Taelord, MDG, etc.). This includes over 70% of melee squads, including almost all of the top units, such as the KoW, Heavies, GSWs and Dividers. While this causes some interesting metagame shifts for casual play and draft situations (Yari are particularly effective against this guy), and he is well balanced against ranged armies, mixed armies, or armies with strong Special Attacks, but I am afraid that his combination of special abilities is too unbalancing in situations where he may face an all-melee army.

I've had so much fun with Gor'Vath, that I keep trying to justify continuing testing him, but I can't get past his utter dominance over so many units, so it is with a fair degree of disappointment that I vote NO to induct Gor'Vath.

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