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Old December 5th, 2021, 11:44 PM
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Re: Delta: latest updates and discussion

As promised, we are now rolling out our 4 month update to Delta pricing. There are a whopping 70 updates in prices this time around, so I’ve broken it down into categories to help people understand what’s changing and why. There's also a tab on the spreadsheet that shows all the changes.

Oops
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Part of a project like this is making adjustments, looking at how they play out, and recognizing when you’ve swung a unit too far in the other direction. In the case of these designs, we are moving the price back closer to its original - in some cases all the way back or even in the other direction. Sometimes there’s a specific reason we missed (e.g. we didn’t account for Re-Tak-Shi boosting Drudge, the support figures for Kurrok and Blades got more expensive) and in other cases it was just a miss.

Faction Reapportionments
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In these cases we are shifting around the points allocations between figures that have tight synergy.
  • In the case of Harqs they are too cheap as a standalone unit at 55, but in order to keep the cost of the Kato army at the right level with their price hike, Kato takes a huge price cut.
  • Similarly, the Gladiatrix is a bit too cheap at 30 but Spartacus needs to be cheaper to support the classic steamroller build (which is at a reasonable power level for Delta).
  • We slide a bit of the cost of Rechets directly onto their card from Iskra.
  • Several Elf Wizards take a price cut, but Ulginesh takes the biggest one. Haduc goes up slightly in part because of his ability to boost frenzy builds.
  • Master Lao absorbs a bit of the cost from the rest of the Monks. (Overall the faction becomes cheaper.)

VCheese Tax
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These units are good. See the recent VCheese event to see how. (This isn’t really why all these units went up in price, but it’s not not why.)

We can bump other things up, too
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Only a few here. Mimring and Morgoloth both just merit a bump, while cutters are helped by the less frequent appearance of dragons and majors in the Delta meta.

Red Headed Step-Bonding Heroes
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The relevant squads for most of these designs rose in price, in part due to the presence of really good bonding heroes. Since these are not those heroes, they become cheaper so they can still be viable as budget options with the more expensive squad. (Estivara is not actually a bonding hero, of course, but she has strong spider synergy. Note that the Wyvern and Estivara price cuts do not apply in Delta Classic, where spiders are cheaper.)

Who are you and what have you done with dok???
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As many know, I really dislike Isamu. Isamu absolutely deserves to cost 25 points based on what he does. But raising Isamu that high made us realize something interesting about how tournament Heroscape works. Without underpriced filler units, it’s way more painful to play a build that’s 10-20 points below the max point total. So, as much as I don’t personally like it, it makes sense to intentionally allow Isamu to be a bit above the curve so that there’s still a generically strong filler option available at 20 points.

General Discount bin
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A catch-all category for a bunch of units that are dropping in cost. The reasons vary considerably from figure to figure, but most of these units haven’t seen much action in Delta events. Even with the discounts many had already received, they were overpriced for what they do.

Last edited by dok; December 6th, 2021 at 12:10 AM.
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