Re: Unit Debate #71 Nilfheim vs Quahon
Both are very similar but in my opinion Quahon is a clear winner for the fact that if ONE unit breaks your wall and get engaged with Nilf then you have to choose with using Ice Shards and if you miss, you are dealing no damage with Nilf this turn, or using just normal attack, to have more chance to kill the intrude but you have to accept that you will not kill anything else with Nilf. To me this is the most significant difference between the two and it goes in favor of Quahon.
Also I find it easier to shoot at multiples figures, while being in security, with Lightning Breath than with Ice Shrads, with Ice Shards you to be kinda like "in the middle of the fight".
Survavibility diff will be significant in like 5% of games, to me that doesn't out-balance the higher security of Lightning breath vs Ice Shards.
Move diff is not significant, like you will not use Nilf or Quahon to assassinate anything anyway and they don't have enough range to really play the "hit and run" game.
Figure size and form isn't significant too, like there is places Quahon can go and Nilf can't, and there is place where it's the opposite, highly depends on maps and how the "sweet spots" are designed.
And finally most people underestimate the Spiders build but it's really a powerhouse, Spiders are cheap and fast and hance excellent at blocking the things that could scare Quahon.
Also Lightning Storm and Entangling Web have EXCELLENT synergy, if you seperate too much your forces to prevent Lightning breath then you give good shots for Entangling web and a SINGLE lost OM usually means lose in a competitive game.
Sujoah who was trash-tier before Quahon becomes a nice Shark here as she's doing very well against everything Quahon is scared off.
In french tournaments Quahon +spiders build was very present and it always had a MUCH better showing than Zelrig+Greens or Nilf+Rats, Nilf+Greens+Rae was not brought because it's considered cheese but imo you need that kind of cheese to beat Quahon+Spiders an yet win is not guaranteed. If predator players gets lucky lightning sotrm or entangling web and is playing correctly, you'll lose no matter how well you play.
Quahon is definitely favored in the "mirror", Nilf+Rae+Greenies is probably better against raw melee like knights but to me that's overkill, as dragon + screen is already great enough vs melee.
And Quahon is obviously better vs screen + shooter ( the mirror) her lightning breath is like designed for that, and vs ranged squads because higher range and fast spiders. Anyone who played Nilf+GSW+Rae knows it's quite a hassle to play vs ranged squads: you have to come to the ennemy while being quite slow because rushing to opponent is way too risky, it's difficult to use all auras, to shoot at multiple stuff etc... Quahon build doesn't have all those problems or they are at least greatly reduced.
Last edited by Foudzing; May 27th, 2020 at 08:06 AM.
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