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Old April 25th, 2020, 11:52 AM
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Re: Diplomacy

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Originally Posted by Kinseth View Post

@scorpiusx I thought you had some mid-game opportunities to go for the solo, but near the end of the game, I thought you were super weak around Sil, I will have to really look at the map, but I think France could have soloed given how weak you were there. I won't get to it today.

Also, on a personal level, ghosting someone in a game of diplomacy is a real jerk move. I am not happy with you over that. Very disrespectful, tis a game we are playing after all.

In the aftermath, I do feel much better about my elimination knowing that there was no solo.

I was honestly concerned about France gunning for the solo at the end, especially since I felt Austria was more likely to side with France than me, but it certainly wasn't a sure thing as I could have held out long enough to build a bunch of fleets to attack the relatively weaker western side of the map. It is unclear exactly what the outcome of it would be, though kevindola and I both thought we were more likely to lose than to win if the other tried for the solo at that stage.


As for ghosting you...that to me was simple. I had clearly betrayed you and it was obvious I was attacking you. Any communication would have been a hollow facade, but to me it felt more like a waste of my time and energy, and an insult to your intelligence if I kept trying to maintain good relations with you while constantly plotting for your downfall. "Hey Germany, lovely weather we're having today. Gee, sorry for helping take out that last supply center of yours, but I swear that I am going to help you take over France really soon!" Would you have preferred that over radio silence?


And if you want to say I didn't give you the chance to change your mind...France just seemed more trust-able and genuine in 1901 than you did. With France I felt like there was a mutual interest of forming a trusting diplomatic relationship full of understanding. With you I felt more like I was getting schmoozed. I had essentially made up my mind and was committed to sticking to it. You could argue this made me inflexible, but to me I think it made me look more trustworthy to my allies, and more focused on winning the battles ahead of me.



Honestly, I didn't talk with people much this game really, outside of France. I had pretty heavy correspondence with Russia when we did a 3 way attack on Germany, but after turning on him I was basically insulated with only France, minus the occasional nod to Austria when France convinced Austria that we could totally arrange a 3 way draw.


Does that make me a poor Diplomat? Perhaps, but whatever I did, it worked well enough to help me achieve my goal from the start, which was either to win solo or win with a close partner I had fun with the whole game. I'm glad you can derive pleasure or satisfaction from losing the game you played due to how it finished, while I can enjoy achieving the goal I set out to do from the outset. Perhaps we were playing two very different games.



Also, I find telling someone to go eat a bag of dicks to be far more disrespectful than cutting off communication, but perhaps I am not well enough versed in Diplomacy etiquette to have a firm commentary on that. ^


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