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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen

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Originally Posted by Lazy Orang View Post
I actually don't mind that idea too much, though I feel making the Knights and Gilbert mutually exclusive kind of neuters both of them....
Yeah, it's a bit tough—similarly for, say, Nilfheim and the Greenscales. But most of those units have other options: there are other heroes to pair with knights, Greenscales have other dragons they can play with, and Nilf can still be effective on his own. Now, Gilbert with no knights to play with is a tough sell, granted, but mostly it works out okay.

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Originally Posted by Yodaking View Post
I've taken Q10, KA, & KMA to a tourney before and even though each of them is pretty good they still get owned by Stinger x6 and the like.
Well, sure: thus the 300pt restriction on restricted commons.

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Originally Posted by Yodaking View Post
Don't know why you feel the need to prevent someone from running an all unique card army with no bonding.
Not sure what you mean: there's nothing about the restricted list that prevents running an army with no common or uncommon cards in it.

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Originally Posted by Yodaking View Post
Then placing the dragons and their bonding squad on the list seems like an unjust punishment to them.
Now that's just an unfair characterization. There are 9 dragons in the game that you can use with the Greenscales—not to mention Zogross—and only 4 of them are on the restricted list. So that leaves you 6 options to play with the Greenscales. Sure, Greenscales and Nilf (or any of the other 3) is a kick-ass army that's easy to mop the floor with pretty much any opponent ... but that's pretty much the point. You have to put a little more work into it.

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Originally Posted by Yodaking View Post
Common squads that have open bonding with multiple heroes seem more terrifying that a common squad that can bond with exactly one hero.
Again, not sure what you mean here: the number of heroes that a squad can bond with has nothing to do with whether they're on the restricted list or not.

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Originally Posted by superfrog View Post
This is the list that is used in SoCal. I don't know how they came up with it or how well it works for them.
It's an adaptation of someone else's list (I want to say the Texas guys, but I may be misremembering). I tweaked it a bit—throwing the VC guys in and keeping it updated—both at the time we adapted it and a couple of times since. It's almost entirely based on the power rankings from dok: basically anything with an "A-" or higher is on the list, with very few exceptions. My only real innovation was to break the list into primary vs filler—originally it was one big list, but I found that not being able to throw in Isamu when you had 10 points left over and another restricted unit in your army was just too damned annoying.

I think it's worked pretty well. Prior to the restricted list, if you dared to bring any even remotely creative army, you were just steamrolled by these same old armies over and over, and the people didn't even have to try hard to do it. And the final matches would always come down to practically mirror images of armies fighting themselves/each other. I mean, I already find tournament games somewhat boring, and this just exacerbated the whole situation. Nowadays, our tournaments are a lot more fun, IMHO. I suppose some people think tournaments are not supposed to be fun—that they're deadly serious competition or whatnot—but no one in our group has made that argument.

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Originally Posted by Tom Vasel
And I've seen some people on the Internet seem to have a problem with mixing this with the rest of the game, which makes no sense to me, because, I mean, you already are having knights fight robots, how is throwing Spider-Man into the mix that big of a deal?
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