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C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT THE WRECKING CREW

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit too powerful or too weak.
PASS –

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS-

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS –

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS - Didn't get to use Crowbar Demolition in Army Test 1 but all other powers from all 4 members of The Wrecking Crew were used.

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS - Yeah, lots of options as far as who to put OM's on and who to attack. Going for the kill with these guys against an easy target can offer better chance of getting TWC17/12 to work, but then if you fail the roll or attack, the tougher opponent can make you pay. Also, choosing who you activate once you do get TWC17/12 to work give you options. If you choose Wrecker, then he has a much better chance of activating someone else since his TWC is 12 vs. 17 and after killing a figure he only needs 7 to get another activation since you add 5 to the roll for 12 he needs. You also have to consider doing that vs. getting Bulldozer into position for his Charge, or Piledriver to use his Pounding Fists, or Thuderball with his Ball and Chain or ranged attack of 5. So lots to consider and very fun.


Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
What should be the unit's point value? .800
- Give a brief overview. .While this was a butt kicking to be sure, The Wrecking Crew certainly were helped by having Wrecker on the Team Up glyph to allow for even more activations of The Wrecking Crew. I was rolling hot and it was nasty for The Wrecking Crew 17 power. Though going against squads really helps because they are easy to kill and have a better chance of getting another activation with TWC17 or TWC12 for Wrecker. I could have played better with the Thugs and kept them spaced apart more to avoid Thunderball's Ball and Chain attack, so that could have extended their lives a little to maybe inflict another wound or two on The Crew. Having Herc put the Challenge Marker on Thunderball kind of backfired (I guess his Olympian Ego got the best of him here for sure, perfectly thematic!). Giving Thunderball an attack of 7, while there was a chance of multiple WC activations for him to get ganged up on wasn't the brightest idea. So had he kept his Challenge to himself, he may have stuck around another turn or two to inflict maybe another wound or two to The Crew. So considering the TU glyph and many multiple activations for The Wrecking Crew, as well as some tactical errors on the opponent's side, this match was relatively good and should have gone The Wrecking Crew's way. Had they not won with all the things going their way, it would have been pretty bad for the power level of The Wrecking Crew.
Map: .X Marks the Spot.
Units: .The Wrecking Crew at 800 points vs. Hercules (360) Penguin (120) Black Mask (100) and Thugs x 3 (225) for 805 points.

Spoiler Alert!

R1- Piledriver advances and rolls 8 for TWC17


Penguin and Thugs advance toward nearest warehouse.


Thunderball advances and rolls 12 for TWC17


Penguin and Thugs continue their advance into/behind warehouse.


Wrecker moves and rolls 17 for his TWC12 and Bulldozer moves and rolls 11 for TWC17.


Penguin fly's onto warehouse and Thugs move through inside of warehouse and 3 of them can attack from concrete with height vs. Bulldozer but only put 1 wound (1) on him.


R2- Thunderball moves and attacks the 3 Thugs that attacked Bulldozer and kills all 3 with Ball and Chain (should have kept Thugs separated). Then TB rolls 7 +5 for kill = 12 for TWC17.


Penguin fly's onto roof and attacks with Umbrella vs. TB and misses both attacks. Thug in warehouse advances to engage Bulldozer and puts 1 wounds on him (2) other 3 Thugs move and attack Thunderball but all 3 miss.


Bulldozer kills adjacent Thug and rolls 12 +5 =17 for TWC17 and can activate Wrecker who moves on to Team Up glyph and throws Crowbar at Thug with height on concrete and kills him. Then rolls 8+5=13 for his TWC12 and Thunderball can move and kill 1 of 2 Thugs with his Ball and Chain. Then he rolls 18+5=23 for TWC17 and Wrecker can throw his Crowbar at a Thug on concrete with height but Wrecker misses, but he rolls 13 for his TWC12 to activate Thunderball who kills an adjacent Thug but only rolls 10+5=15 for TWC17. Finally they are done!


Black Mask moves and attacks Thunderball but misses. Thugs put 2 wounds (2) on Thunderball and 1 Thug misses Wrecker.


Wrecker is on the TU glyph so he activates Thunderball to kill a Thug and he rolls 12+5=17 for TWC17 and has Bulldozer move forward and then he rolls 18 for TWC17 and has Thunderball kill a Thug and he then rolls 5+5 =10 for TWC17 and he's done. Now Wrecker on the TU glyph can take his turn and stays put to kill a Thug with his Crowbar Throw and rolls 19+5=24 for his TWC12 and has Bulldozer Charge Hercules for a 3 + 2auto skull=5 attack but Herc rolls 4 shields to take only 1 wound (1). Then Bulldozer rolls 5 for TWC17.


Penguin fly's off roof and attacks Wrecker with his Umbrella Gun for 1 wound (1), then last 2 Thugs move and 1 misses Wrecker, while the other one that is adjacent to Black Mask, is on Concrete with height for 5 attack puts 3 wounds (5) on Bulldozer with a 4/1 attack.


R3- Herc puts Challenge Marker on Bulldozer and then kills him.


Wrecker is on TU and has Thunderball move to attack both Thug and Black Mask with Ball and Chain and he misses both but rolls 18 for TWC17 and has Piledriver put 2 wounds on Penguin with his Pounding Fists and he rolls 7 for TWC17. Now Wrecker on TU glyph can take his turn and kills Thug with Crowbar Throw but only rolls 4+5=9 for his TWC12.


Herc puts Challenge Marker on Thunderball and puts 1 wound on him with a 4/3 attack.


Wrecker on TU glyph has Thunderball attack (7 with Challenge Marker) vs. Herc and puts 1 wound (2) on him with a 4/3 attack of his own. Then he rolls 18 for TWC17 (rolling hot and it is nasty!) and has Piledriver kill Penguin and he rolls 15+5 for TWC17 and has Thunderball attack 7 vs. Herc for 2 more wounds (4) with a 2/0 attack, then he rolls 1 for TWC17. Now Wrecker on TU glyph can't reach anyone with his Crowbar Throw so he moves off glyph and puts 1 wound (5) on Herc with Crowbar Throw. He rolls 8 for his TWC12.


Herc puts 2 wounds (5) on Thunderball.


Wrecker moves adjacent to Herc and puts a wound on him (6) with 4/3 attack and rolls 14 for his TWC12 to have Thunderball kill Herc with a 4/2 attack. And he rolls 20+5=25 for TWC17 to have Wrecker move and put 3 wounds (3) on Black Mask and then he rolls 7 for his TWC12 power.

R4- Wrecker kills Black Mask and rolls 4+5=9 for his TWC12 power.


Last Thug attacks Thunderball for 1 wound to kill him.


Wrecker kills last Thug.


Who won and how many wounds did they have? .Wrecker with 1 wound and Piledriver with 0 wounds win on T3RR4.

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
What should be the unit's point value? .800
- Give a brief overview. .Well it's a different story when The Wrecking Crew go up against hard to kill opponents, as it makes getting the +5 for TWC17/12 roll a lot more difficult. TWC17/12 hit a few times but wasn't very consistent, so it can be their weakness as a team when plans don't go right. For the most part, the Crew rolled pretty crappy at the worst time and GL in particular rolled very well for the most part. A couple better rolls here or there could have helped as a good roll vs. Batman when he failed ES could have freed up Piledriver to help out. Bulldozer showed that while he has some devastating potential, he can be easily taken care of as well. Had I sent out Piledriver early instead of Bulldozer, Bulldozer might have had a chance to Charge GL after Wrecker brought him down with CB Demolition, but that's a lot of ifs to count on.

Map: .X Marks the Spot.
Units: .The Wrecking Crew 800 points vs. GL Hal (350) Batman (200) and Flash (250) for 800 points.

Spoiler Alert!

R1- Batman moves toward enemy warehouse.


Bulldozer moves toward Bats and rolls 16 for TWC17


GL fly's to roof near Bats and puts 4 wounds on Bulldozer with a 4/0 attack.


Wrecker moves and rolls 1 for his TWC12


GL misses Bulldozer with a 1 / 2 attack


Piledriver advances and rolls 5 for TWC17


R2- Wrecker moves onto TU glyph as he was 1 space short of range for Crowbar Demolition vs GL. He throws Crowbar at GL and misses with 3/5 attack and rolls 14 for his TWC12 to get Bulldozer to move onto shadow under building for cover since he took 4 quick wounds. Then Bulldozer rolls 4 for TWC17.


GL puts 1 wound on Wrecker with a 4/3 attack.


Wrecker on TU glyph has Bulldozer charge Batman for 3 +2 auto skulls for 5, but takes a wound (5) as Bats rolls 20 for ES15 and he rolls 3 for TWC17. Now Wrecker on TU glyph moves to Crowbar Demolition against GL on roof and rolls 12 to bring GL down adjacent to Wrecker but doesn't put a Demo wound on him. Wrecker rolls 14 for his TWC12 and would have loved to have Bulldozer Charge GL, but with 5 wounds and engaged to Bats, he goes the safe route and has Piledriver move and attack GL but misses with a 1 / 2 attack and rolls 15 for TWC17.


Bats kills Bulldozer just to make sure he can't Charge anyone.


Wrecker misses GL with a 1 / 2 attack and rolls 11 for his TWC12.


GL puts 2 wounds on Wrecker with a 3/1 attack and rolls 3 for FC17.


R3- GL puts 2 more wounds (5) on Wrecker with a 4/2 attack and rolls 11 for FC17.


Wrecker misses Hal with a 2/4 attack and rolls 17 for his TWC12 and has Thunderball move and throw his Ball and Chain at GL for 1 wound with a 3/2 attack. Then he rolls 20 for TWC17 and Wrecker puts 1 wound (2) on GL with a 2/1 attack but then only rolls 8 for his TWC12.


Bats moves onto shadow adjacent to Wrecker and misses him with a 3/3 attack.


Wrecker then misses GL with a 3/3 attack and rolls 7 for his TWC12


GL kills Wrecker with a 4/2 attack.


Thunderball moves adjacent to GL and misses with a 1/1 attack and rolls 6 for TWC17


R4- Piledriver leaves engagement from GL for 0 wound, moves onto shadow adjacent to Bats and attacks Bats but takes a wound (1) from ES15 roll of 15. Then he rolls 3 for TWC17.


GL puts 1 wound (1) on Thunderball and rolls 6 for FC17


Thunderball misses GL with a 3 / 4 attack and rolls 2 for TWC17


Bats puts 3 wounds (4) on Piledriver with a 4/1 attack.


Thunderball puts 1 wound (3) on GL with a 3/2 attack and rolls 13 for TWC17


GL misses Thunderball with a 2/2 attack but rolls 18 for FC17 and puts 2 wounds (3) on TB with a 5/3 attack and rolls 13 +3 for 16 for his FC17.


R5- Thunderball forces GL to remove first BM (3) with a 3 skull attack and rolls 20 for TWC17 and has Piledriver attack Bats for 1 wound (1) and Piledriver attacks again with Pounding Fists (which are less effective in reducing Bats' defense since he's on a shadow space) but misses with a 3 / 4 attack and rolls 10 for TWC17


GL puts 1 wound(4) on Thunder ball and rolls 16+3+19 for FC17 to put 1 more wound on TB with a 3/2 attack and then rolls 11+3+14 for FC17


Piledriver misses Bats with a 2/3 attack


Bats misses Piledriver with a 2/2 attack


Thunderball forces GL to remove another BM (2) with a 4 skull attack and rolls 20 for TWC17 to have Piledriver attack Bats but he misses with a 1/1 attack and rolls 2 for TWC17


GL with only an attack of 5 dice now kills Thunderball with a 4/1 attack.


R6- Bats puts 5th wound on Piledriver.


Piledriver puts 2nd wound on Bats and then with Pounding Fists puts 2 more on Bats to finish him off.


GL fly's to height and can barely see Piledriver and whiffs his attack (makes up for lucky 4 skull attack vs. TB)


Piledriver decides to head toward Flash (who is sitting back with a bag of popcorn enjoying the show).


GL moves and attacks from edge of roof and finishes Piledriver off.






Who won and how many wounds did they have? Green Lantern with 3 wounds and 2 Battery Markers and Flash with 0 wounds and not even activated win on T5R6

Skipped posting many other test results while tweaking to get below d20 changes to the Crew. The results were informally posted in the thread.

Army Test #8 with CB Demolition 9(instead of 11) and TWC 15 (instead of 16) for the crew other than Wrecker with his TWC12 still.
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
What should be the unit's point value? .800
- Give a brief overview. Started out okay for the Crew as they got to get a couple TWC12/15 to work to bring up others, but they failed every other TWC12/15 for the rest of the game and it really hurt them. Thor put 3 quick wounds on Piledriver and Wrecker with an early GOTS attack, so that hurt too. There were some bad attack and defense rolls on both sides, so that's not to blame for the loss, but more so that TWC12/15 didn't work to get multiple attacks on Thor or Hulk and Thor got lucky with GOTS, though he could have attacked with height vs. Piledriver on the ladder, so he could have gotten those 3 wounds anyway, but Wrecker getting those 3 and a couple from Hulk later made it too risky to put OM's on Wrecker's card with 5 wounds and adjacent to an enraged Hulk. So the easier chance with TWC12 was pretty much lost early. Had the d20's been more favorable for the Crew for their TWC12/15, they could have had a good chance to take out Hulk earlier and then maybe gang up on Thor. Wrecker never used Crowbar Demolition here, as it wouldn't be beneficial in this matchup.


Map: .HYDRA Base Gehenna
Units: The Wrecking Crew army at 800 points vs. Thor and Hulk (hasbro) 800 points

Spoiler Alert!

R1- Piledriver advances and rolls 18 for The Wrecking Crew 15 to move Thunderball and he rolls 5 for TWC15.


Hulk leaps onto building

Wrecker moves and throws crowbar at Hulk for 2 wounds and rolls 19 for his TWC12 to move Piledriver up ladder toward Hulk.


Thor fly's to top of building and misses Piledriver with hammer throw


Wrecker puts 1 more wound (3) on Hulk with crowbar throw and rolls 6 for his TWC12.


Thor fly's to space at top of ladder above Piledriver and uses God Of Thunder Strike to put 3 wounds on Piledriver (3) 3 wounds on Wrecker (3) but misses Thunderball.


R2- Hulk jumps off roof and attacks (9) vs. Wrecker on single height and puts 1 wound (4) on him.


Wrecker attacks with height and puts 2 wounds (5) on Hulk and rolls 7 for his TWC12


Hulk attacks (11) vs. Wrecker with height and puts 1 wound (5) on him with a 4/3 attack.


Thunderball moves to height on side hill and throws Ball and Chain at Hulk but misses with a 1/1 attack and then rolls 13 for TWC15.


Thor fly's to side hill and to height to attack Thunderball for 2 wounds with a 6/4 attack.


Thunderball moves to same level to attack Thor but whiffs attack and rolls a 1 for TWC15 (can there be a more pitiful turn than that?)


R3- Bulldozer gets to use Charging Headbutt at Hulk with height as Bulldozer is on a shadow space but rolls 1 skull +2 for 3 total, but Hulk only rolls 1 shield to take 2 wounds (7). Then he rolls 13 for TWC15


Hulk kills Wrecker with a 6/1 attack.


Thunderball misses Thor with a 3/3 attack and rolls 11 for TWC15


Hulk puts 1 wound on Bulldozer in shadow (1)


Piledriver moves down ladder to single height and kills Hulk and rolls 4 for TWC15 +3 for destroying Hulk, but it's still only 7 and misses.


Thor misses Thunderball with a 2/2 attack.


R4- Thor moves to get out of Bulldozer's Charge range and misses Thunderball with a 4/4 attack.


Bulldozer moves close to Thor and rolls 4 for TWC15


Thor moves and puts 4 wounds (5) on Bulldozer.


Thunderball misses Thor with a 2/6 attack and rolls 6 for TWC15


Thor puts 3 wounds (5) on Thunderball with a 4/1 attack.


Thunderball puts 3 wounds on Thor with a 4/1 attack and rolls 10 for TWC15.


R5 – Piledriver moves and puts 2 wounds(5) on Thor with a 3/1 attack but misses second attack and rolls 1 for TWC15.


Thor kills Piledriver with a 4/1 attack.


Piledriver dead, no turn.


Thor kills Bulldozer's


Piledriver dead, no turn.


Thor kills Thunderball.


Who won and how many wounds did they have? Thor with 5 wounds wins on T6R5.

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