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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT GL Guy @ 340 points Pass at 320 with 2 defense.

C3G CHECK LIST FEEDBACK FORM
- Theme/ Does it pass. Pass
- Mirror/ Does it pass,. Pass
- Bonding/ Does it pass. Pass
- Synergy/ Does it pass?. Pass
- Power/ Does it pass?,. Pass
- Fun Test/ Does it pass? Pass
- Fun Competitive Test/ Does it pass? Pass
- Drafting Test/ Does it pass? Pass
- Usage Test/ Does it pass? Pass
- Strategy Test/Does it pass? Pass
C3G PLAY TEST FEEDBACK FORM
(Be sure to list what official units you used and what BoV map you used per section below.)
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Heavy Hitter/ Does it pass? Pass

Played on Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh map.

Spoiler Alert!

Vs. Superman – Superman won with 5 wounds on T2R3. Guy made sure to take a wound each round to use his Willful Overextend to get that extra turn/attack. It looked bad for Supes early, but after putting wounds on himself for WO, Guy would later have to burn a BM even against low attacks from Supes and eventually his attacks were not hurting Supes anymore.

Vs. Darkseid – Guy won with 3 wounds and 2 Battery Markers on T5R2. His faster movement allowed him to get to height early and get two attacks with height after taking a wound to use Willful Overextend. Darkseid didn’t roll particularly well for his OE. DS eventually got adjacent and same level but Guy was able to still get off a couple good attacks on T1R2 with WO and kept chipping away while using Shields to block DS attacks. Eventually, Guy finished DS off with a 2/0 attack.

Vs. GL Hal – Hal wins with 2 wounds and 3 BM on T1R2. Started out fast and furious between the two Lanterns as Guy put 1 wound on Hal with first attack from a lowly 3skull attack and then gave himself a wound (1) to use Willful Overextend and put another wound (2) on Hal with another 3 skull attack. Hal forced Guy to burn a BM(3) with a 5 skull attack but missed FC. Guy misses this time with a 3 skull attack that Hal takes a risk in defending with 2 wounds already but he’s a mover and a risk taker and came up with 4 shields. Hal then misses Guy with a 1 skull attack and misses FC. Guy forces Hal to burn a BM (3) with a 4 skull attack that Hal isn’t feeling as fearless about rolling defense against.

Hal wins initiative in R2 and misses with a 2/3 attack, but rolls an 18+2 on FC and forces Guy to burn a BM(2) with a 4 skull attack. Then Hal rolls a 15+2 FC roll to go again and kills Guy with a 3/0 attack. Guy only needed 1 shield to stay alive as he only had 1 wound, so he took a chance vs. a 3 skull attack and wanted to save BM to attack with next turn and maybe use WO to try to finish off Hal that had 2 W and 2 BM. If nothing else, Guy wanted to force Hal to use last 2 BM’s and hope for the best after that.

Vs Sinestro – Guy wins with 3 wounds and 1 BM on T1R2. Sinestro put 3 wounds on Guy right off the bat with a 4/1 attack. Guy had wanted to save BM’s and didn’t expect to get hit that hard. But Guy hits back hard with a 5 skull roll to force Sinestro to burn a BM (3) and Guy burns a BM(3) to use WO but misses with a 2/3 attack. Sinestro attacks with FOF and rolls 4 skulls to force Guy to burn a BM (2) and Sinestro burns a BM (2) to attack with FOF again and only rolls 1 skull. Guy takes a risk that he can defend with 3 dice (5-2 from FOF) and rolls 1 shield to stay alive. Guy then attacks but misses with a 2/2 attack.

Guy wins initiative and puts 3 wounds on Sinestro with a 3/0 attack and burns a BM (1) to uses WO to kill Sinestro with a 2/0 attack. Sinestro could have burned a BM in either case, but had full lives for the first attack and didn’t want to waste a BM and didn’t expect to whiff. Then he certainly could have used BM on WO attack, but he was hoping to roll at least 1 shield to stay alive and be able to burn a BM for FOF next turn.

VS. Martian Manhunter – Guy wins with 3 wounds and 4 BMs on T1R2. Guy hit MM early for 2 wounds (1 first att and 1 from WO attack). MM leaves engagement to fly to height and attacks with a 4 skull attack that Guy takes a chance to roll defense for and gets 2 shields to take 2 wounds (3) Guy engages and misses. MM misses with a 1 skull attack.

Guy wins initiative and puts 2 more wounds on MM and then burns a BM to use WO to kill MM with a 5/1 attack. After MM left engagement the first time to attack with range and height, he wouldn’t be able to make use of that again as he wouldn’t have any advantage to LE since Guy would re-engage and attack. MM is more suited for team play anyway since he can’t make use of Telepathic Directive while alone and Intangible works better when opponent is locked up with a teammate and MM can LE and not get chased.

Vs. Wonder Woman – Guy wins with 3 wounds and 1 BM on T2R2. WW had first turn in R1 and didn’t want to fly too close to Guy so he could engage her right away, but he flew, attacked and missed with range, then took a wound to use WO to engage WW so she couldn’t use Lasso, but he missed with a 3/4 attack. WW attacks with 2 skulls and Guy is cocky and rolls defense but whiffs to take 2 wounds. Now he has 3 wounds because of WO on T1. Guy’s pride is wounded, among other things so he hits back hard with a 5/0 attack that stuns WW and puts her 1 wound from death. Had WW had last turn of round, she’d risk dying from LE to hope for Initiative win next round to use Lasso, but Guy had last turn this round so WW attacks with 2 skulls and since Guy only has 1 life left, he isn’t going to risk whiffing again and burns a BM (3). Then Guy misses WW with a 2/2 attack.

WW wins initiative (go figure) and rolls 4 skulls for an attack that forces Guy to burn a BM(2). Guy misses with a 3/3 attack and burns a BM (1) to attack WW again and kills her with a 2/1 attack. Guy figured he’d have to burn that BM anyway next turn from WW attack and still had 1 to spare, so he’s generally going to use WO whenever he can early in a round to stack wounds on opponent or try to close them out if they are close to dying.



I went a little nuts with the detail here, but since Griff was concerned with Guy’s WO, I wanted to give some details to show better what goes on with WO. As you can see, Guy won initiative in R2 on several occasions that may have made a difference in some cases. Don’t expect this detail throughout the testing though, as this “Guy” is supposed to be pretty straight forward and I’m not going to waste more time than necessary this time.

Mid-Level Hero Test/Does it pass? Pass
Played on Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh map

Test 1
Guy @340 (still had 3 defense0 vs Captain America and Torin

Spoiler Alert!

Guy wins with 2 wounds(both from WO) and 3 Battery Markers on T3R2. With Guy’s great move, he was able to close in on Torin and after using WO, he killed him early. Cap was hoping Guy would be tied up long enough with Torin to be able to engage him, but that didn’t happen and Cap had to use Shield Throw all the time because Guy would fly to height and use terrain obstacles to keep Cap from being able to engage him.

Test 2
Guy @340 vs. Batman and Nightcrawler

Spoiler Alert!

Batman wins with 0 wounds on T1R2. Guy still had 4 BM’s left. Guy used WO (1W) early on against Nightcrawler, but he Evaded both attacks. Bats put W2 on Guy with a Batarang 3/2 attack. Guy took out Nightcrawler with a 4/0 attack. Bats Grappled to same level and adjacent to Guy and attacked with a 2 skull roll and even though Guy had 2 wounds already, he rolled his 7 defense dice (still had the 3 defense) and whiffed to take 2 wounds and die. Seems like those low attack rolls can chip away and be dangerous when a GL decides to roll their high defense and whiff or roll few shields, instead of burning a BM.

Squad/ Does it pass? Pass
Played on Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh map

Guy @ 340 (before change to defense) vs. 10th Reg x 4 +2

Spoiler Alert!

8 10th Regiment survive to win on T3R4. Guy took an early 2 wounds from a 2/0 attack and that made him wary of burning a wound for WO and he didn’t want to burn a BM for it so he didn’t use it for this game. He had height the whole time and killed a 10th with each attack, but they chipped away to keep forcing him to burn BM’s when they had W+F and roll a 3 skull attack or engage him for decent attacks.

Army Test 1/ Does it pass?. Pass
Played on Ruins of Pine Tree Marsh map

Hal (350), Guy (330) Sentinels x 2 (320) 1000 points

vs.

Wolverine (280), Colossus (260), Prof X (220), Iceman (150) and Angel (90) for 1000 points.

Spoiler Alert!

R1- Sentinel White moves out. Prof X has Angel carry him toward height and moves Iceman. Sentinel advances and attacks Iceman with a 4/3 attack for 1 wound on Iceman. Mutant Alert has Sentinel Tan move 4 spaces. Angel uses Guardian Angel to carry Iceman closer to height. Prof X has Wolverine move and then has Colossus move adjacent to Wolverine and he uses FBS to throw Wolvie adjacent to Sentinel White, but doesn't put a wound on it. Guy flies to height and attacks Wolverine for 1 wound and takes a wound himself to use WO and puts 2 more wounds on Wolverine for 3 total. Prof X has Angel carry Colossus adjacent to Guy and Colossus attacks Guy with a 4/3 attack for Guy's 2nd wound (he took a big chance not using Shield to block that attack, but he's crazy like that).

R2- Prof X has Wolverine with height attack Sentinel White and he kills it and heals 1 wound (2). Colossus attacks Guy with another 4 skull attack, but this time Guy burns a BM to save his bacon. Sentinel Tan flies and attacks with height vs. Wolverine but misses. Prof X has Colossus attack Guy but misses and then has Iceman attack Guy with DF and forces Guy to burn another BM (2) with yet another 4 skull attack. Guy attacks Iceman for 2 wounds (3) and then takes a wound (3) for WO and kills Iceman with a 4/2 attack. Prof X has Colossus attack Guy with yet another 4 skull attack that forces Guy to burn a BM (1) and then Wolverine moves and attacks Sentinel Tan and puts 3 wounds on it and heals. Hal flies to height and attacks Wolverine for 2 more wounds for 3 total.

R3- Prof X has Colossus attack Guy but he misses with a 2/2 attack and then Wolverine attacks and kills Sentinel Tan and heals a wound (2). Guy takes a chance and leaves engagement from Colossus for no fatal wound and attacks and misses Wolverine. Prof X has Wolverine move and attack Guy who has height and Wolvie kills him and then heals (1). Angel pick up Prof X and carries him up to height and near Colossus. Hal moves and attacks Wolvie for 2 wounds (4). Prof X has Wolvie move and heal 1 wound (3) and then has Angel move adjacent to Wolverine. Hal moves and attacks Wolvie for 2 wounds (5).

R4- Prof X has Angel carry Wolverine back toward him and has Colossus move 1 space. Hal attacks Wolvie and misses. Prof X has Colossus use FBS to throw Wolvie at Hal but doesn't wound him. Wolverine attacks Hall and puts 2 wounds on him and heals 1 wound (4). Hal attacks and kills Wolverine with a 5/1 attack. Prof X has Angel carry Colossus adjacent to Hal and Colossus attacks but misses. Hal attacks Colossus and misses and then misses FC.

R5- Hal leaves engagement from Colossus for no wounds and flies adjacent to and with height over Prof X and attacks with a 4/1 attack for 3 wounds as Prof X was a brave old bird to not use his Psionic Defense. Then Hal misses FC. Prof X has Angel fly Colossus back adjacent to Hal and Angel misses Hal with a 2/3 attack, but Colossus rolls 6 skulls to force Hal to burn a BM (3). Hal attacks Prof X and forces him to burn his Psionic Defense X marker. Prof X has Angel attack and miss Hal and Colossus misses him as well with a 2/4 attack. Hal kills Prof X with a 6/2 attack, no FC.

R6 - Colossus puts 1 wound on Hal (3). Hal puts 2 wounds on Colossus and gets FC to work but misses Colossus and then misses FC. Colossus misses Hal with a 2/4 attack. Hal puts 2 more wounds on Colossus with a 6/4 attack. Colossus forces Hal to burn a BM (2).Hal misses Colossus.

R7- Colossus forces Hal to burn another BM (1). Hal misses attack and FC vs. Colossus. Colossus kills Hal with a 2/0 attack. Hal died with 1 BM.

Colossus with 4 wounds and Angel with 0 wounds survive to win on T3R7.

I had lowered Guy to 330 for this test after lowering his defense to 2. This might be still too high for him, as I will test him at 320 for the next test. I might have had better luck leading with Hal instead of Guy, as Hal is more durable, but I had wanted to use Guy as a shock troop sort of and weaken the Mutants. However, the extreme flexibility of the Mutant army with Prof X and Angel, really made things hard for Guy's team. Not only did Mutants get two activations, but even an extra little mobility from Angel's Guardian Angel and his normal help with moving figures around. Colossus' FBS was nice even though it didn't give a wound, it got Wolvie where he needed to be and quick, and that mobility option made Wolverine much more deadly. It also didn't help that the Mutants won so man initiatives that allowed for either mobility use or multiple attacks. It also didn't help that GL team didn't have special attacks to bypass Guardian Angel or Steel Skin.

Army Test 2/ Does it pass Pass
Played on Ruins of Pine Tree map

Guy (320), Deadpool (285), Hawkgirl (225) and Huntress (170) for 1000 points

vs.

Wonder Woman (300) Martian Manhunter (300), Flash (250) and Venom (150) for 1000 points.

Spoiler Alert!

R1- Martian Manhunter moves and uses TD to move WW 4 spaces. Huntres moves out. Venom moves out. Hawkgirl moves out. WW moves to height and Lassos Hawkgirl to a lower space but can't wound her with a 1/1 attack. Deadpool moves and attacks vs. Venom but misses and SS kicks in for 2nd attack.

R2- Huntress moves to 2 spaces from WW with height and puts 5 wounds on the fellow hot badass chick with 2 well aimed Crossbow bolts. WW pounds Hawkgirl with a 5/0 attack to take her out of the game. HG dead so no turn. Venom Swings adjacent to Huntress and takes her down with a 5/1 attack. Guy moves and attacks WW with a 4 skull attack but 1 shield was all WW needed to block the ranged attack. Guy takes a wound to use WO and get adjacent to WW to prevent her from using her Lasso next round and he attacks but misses with a 2/2 attack. Martian Manhunter flies to height and puts 2 wounds on Deadpool with his ranged attack and then TD allows Venom and Flash to move. DP reveals X to take away 1 wound. (1).

R3- Guy kills Wonder Woman with a 3/2 attack and then takes a wound (2) to use WO to fly over adjacent to Martian Manhunter and puts 2 wounds on him with a 6/4 attack. Flash moves really fast and stops at a lower space adjacent to Guy and attacks 4 times to put 1 wound (3) on Guy and force him to burn 2 Battery Markers (2)for his Shield. Deadpool attacks Venom but SS kicks in and he tries again and misses with a 1/2 attack. Flash attacks Guy with height 4 times and forces him to burn his last 2 BM's (0). Guy with 0 BM's has height to get an attack of 4 vs Flash but whiffs the attack. Martian Manhunter attacks and kills Guy with a 2/0 attack and used TD to move Flash. DP reveals X to remove wound (0).

R4- Flash moves and attacks Deadpool 4 times for 2 wounds. DP misses Flash with a 1/1 attack and then Flash Dodges second attack. DP removes 1 wound (1). Flash attacks 4 times vs. DP and misses all of them. DP misses with a 1/3 attack and then Flash Dodges second attack. DP removes a wound (0). Martian Manhunter attacks with height vs. DP and hurts him with a 4/0 attack. DP attacks Flash and yet again misses with a 1/1 attack and Flash Dodges the second attack. Dp removes 1 wound (3) then reveals X to remove another wound (2).

R5- Flash attacks DP for no wounds. DP hasn't had much luck vs. Flash, so he attacks adjacent Venom for 1 wound but SS kicks in for second attack. DP removes a wound (1). Flash attacks DP and finally kills him.

Flash with 0 wounds, Martian Manhunter with 2 wounds and Venom with 1 wound survive to win on T3R5.

Guy did okay and did what he had to do, as did Huntress. But Hawkgirl went down without even getting to attack because of the extra move WW got from MM's TD early in R1 allowed her to get into position to lasso HG and subsequently kill her. Deadpool wasn't much help either.

Unfortunately for Guy's team, the opponent's were set up pretty good vs. Guy's and Deadpool's normal ranged attacks. Huntress was a counter for WW and it worked, and Hawkgirl was supposed to engage MM or WW with some Swooping death damage, but that went to crap when she died quickly. I'd say that if WW's team didn't all have special defenses, then Guy's team would have had a better chance for sure. But I think I found a good 1000 point counter team for a 1000 point GL army.

I had lowered Guy's cost to 320 points for this test and think that he'd be okay there at least for now until further playtest show otherwise. I played pretty aggressively with Willful Overextend, so maybe if others are more conservative, they may have different results.