Forum: General
November 11th, 2015, 04:27 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
Pre-@#$%ing-cisely.
This is your ad hominem attack.
You want to know what the goal of most scientists is? To do science. Most teachers want to teach, most engineers want to engineer, most car...
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November 11th, 2015, 04:22 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
You are right, I do not have experience gathering climatic data. I have never said I do. What i do have is experience analyzing data, and analyzing any data is independent of the science. It's...
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November 11th, 2015, 04:09 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
I don't. It's incredible that you could read what I wrote as an issue with the profit-making, itself. I'm tempted to read your attack here as an intentional misinterpretation of my point. [/quote]...
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Forum: General
November 10th, 2015, 10:43 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
Well, Nobel Prizes do amount to money and prestige...[/QUOTE]
Who are these scientists that have won the Nobel for their work on climate science? Do tell.
Compare that list with, say, a list of...
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Forum: General
November 10th, 2015, 09:24 PM
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Forum: General
November 10th, 2015, 09:13 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
Well, Nobel Prizes do amount to money and prestige...
I disagree - you imply that the only way an incorrect result can be published is through sacrificing their integrity. That's not at all...
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November 10th, 2015, 08:53 PM
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Forum: General
November 10th, 2015, 08:46 PM
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Re: Warming
Dysole,
Since you asked, no, I do not rank it as the most important problem we face, and in no way do i believe we need to remake our economy to solve what I see as a low priority problem. I...
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Forum: General
November 4th, 2015, 09:07 PM
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Re: Warming
Interesting question - first, if you go back to my first post (http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=985477&postcount=251) on the subject, I said that half the warming we've seen since...
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Forum: General
November 4th, 2015, 08:32 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
Here's a very interesting article on the insular nature of many of our higher institutes of learning and how that lack of diversity can cause problems
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Forum: General
November 4th, 2015, 08:22 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
In each of these cases, I would argue that the press releases increased the scrutiny of these "discoveries". Each was debunked fairly quickly.
If you want to go back further, I recall that in...
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November 3rd, 2015, 10:16 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
Whether the research has a press release or not, it still has to pass a peer review. I'll tell you what would make a real splash, research that convincingly refutes that global climate change is...
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Forum: General
November 2nd, 2015, 09:09 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
For the most part, I trust scientists. What I don't trust is Science by Press Release. I discount almost all press releases as being biased by the scientist wanting to make a splash or by news...
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November 2nd, 2015, 09:03 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
What do most scientists think? I'll admit that it comes down to how you ask the question. If you asked a group of scientists the question, "Is man or nature responsible for global warming?" A...
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October 28th, 2015, 06:00 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
The problem is that no scientists are saying it, politicians are. The IPCC even says there is no evidence. Their specific claim is that attribution to CO2 of weather pattern changes is low. in...
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October 17th, 2015, 10:30 AM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
Here is a great article from Nature on how scientists often fool themselves:
http://www.nature.com/news/how-scientists-fool-themselves-and-how-they-can-stop-1.18517
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October 12th, 2015, 10:39 AM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
Dok,
Here's the a link to the plot from USHCN
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/ushcn/ts.ushcn_anom25_diffs_urb-raw_pg.gif
And in reality, I don't believe that the temperature...
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September 28th, 2015, 08:09 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
I am responding to several posts here, and I'm glad that the topic is back to the philosophical discussion of how to properly use science to guide decisions. I truly am!
Wriggs said
But is...
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Forum: General
September 24th, 2015, 07:30 AM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
I think your very post actually highlights the issue you have with science. You are talking about "Science" like you would religion, as a single organized belief system. Scientific results can be...
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Forum: General
September 23rd, 2015, 08:37 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
Getting back to the topic - Science isn't exact. Science is messy. Science is often wrong and we should never expect it not to be! Anyone telling you otherwise is selling something. It's up to you...
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September 21st, 2015, 10:26 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
That all depends on the cost of those precautions. And independent of AGW it's a good idea not to build a house along the gulf coast. Nor is it a good idea to build in a flood plain. Unfortunately,...
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September 21st, 2015, 10:03 PM
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Re: Huh
Because according to the catastrophic AGW theory, man-made CO2 has only been in high enough concentrations to change our climate since around the 70s. If the sea level rise from 1900 until now is...
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Forum: General
September 21st, 2015, 08:31 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
These seem quite linear since 2000:
https://bobtisdale.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/03-hadcrut4.png
https://bobtisdale.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/04-uah-tlt-v6-0.png
As for sea level:...
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Forum: General
September 21st, 2015, 08:03 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
No one is saying it isn't getting warmer - ok, the nuts are - but no one else. The question is whether it's 100% caused by CO2. It's not. It's probably at most half caused by CO2, and that...
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September 18th, 2015, 09:54 PM
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Re: Science! Science? Science...
But what if the wrong ones are the climate scientists and their novel approaches and models that have shown to not be able to predict the future? Should we waste money trying to eliminate CO2 when...
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