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Lazy Orang July 30th, 2019 01:45 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
My big concern is that if we don't make Godzilla larger than double, that'll put a sort of imaginary barrier to making anything larger than double, and there are places where, as Bats has described, it has to happen.

quozl July 30th, 2019 01:49 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
Galactus is already larger than double.

Lazy Orang July 30th, 2019 01:51 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quozl (Post 2300477)
Galactus is already larger than double.

Double-spaced movement rules is what I meant.

Bats has said that they'll be needed for some VDOs, but if Godzilla isn't that big, there'll be resistance there.

quozl July 30th, 2019 01:52 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
Like I said earlier, the movement rules have already been worked out. They're the same as the DO throwing rules. We just haven't needed to use them yet.

IAmBatman July 30th, 2019 01:53 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
Less needed and more useful. We also have the ability, as shown by Galactus, to tackle them case by case.

Fwiw, I'm really digging quozl's approach to a simple rule set for moving them that's based on the throwing DOs rules.

Edit: :ninja: Have we officially ruled that the throwing rules are movement rules as well, quozl?

quozl July 30th, 2019 01:55 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman (Post 2300480)
Less needed and more useful. We also have the ability, as shown by Galactus, to tackle them case by case.

Fwiw, I'm really digging quozl's approach to a simple rule set for moving them that's based on the throwing DOs rules.

Edit: :ninja: Have we officially ruled that the throwing rules are movement rules as well, quozl?

Yep, we worked it out a few years ago when I wanted to do a Green Construct tank.

IAmBatman July 30th, 2019 01:58 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
Ah, good to know. Switch me to abstain then.

Lazy Orang July 30th, 2019 02:00 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
But... why would he be smaller than a bus? What earthly sense does that make?
And where is this? Has it been confirmed or briefly talked about, because I was not aware of this. This sounds very sketchy and as though it could be gone back on really easily.

IAmBatman July 30th, 2019 02:01 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang (Post 2300484)
But... why would he be smaller than a bus? What earthly sense does that make?

What bus is this that he'd be smaller than?

Lazy Orang July 30th, 2019 02:03 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
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Originally Posted by IAmBatman (Post 2300485)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang (Post 2300484)
But... why would he be smaller than a bus? What earthly sense does that make?

What bus is this that he'd be smaller than?

The sorts of VDOs you were talking about earlier?

Karat July 30th, 2019 02:15 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang (Post 2300486)
Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman (Post 2300485)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang (Post 2300484)
But... why would he be smaller than a bus? What earthly sense does that make?

What bus is this that he'd be smaller than?

The sorts of VDOs you were talking about earlier?

Longer, not necessarily bigger.

MrNobody July 30th, 2019 02:20 PM

Re: Margloth's Ex-Hero Ramblings Thread
 
This is one of those debates where the further itís gone on, the more entrenched Iíve gotten on my side.

The more I think about, the more I really donít see the point of a double-spaced Godzilla. Godzilla is massive, thatís the main point of his character. Not just big, but towering. If we were manufacturing our own figures, Iíd easily want him to be the biggest one we ever made.

Sure, the biggest Godzilla we can possibly manage still probably wonít be in scale with what he should really be. But having one who has the same footprint as a sports car feels to me like having an Ant-Man who is Medium 4. Itís just not close enough to feel right. Itís always bothered me that Giant-Man and other giant characters are not even twice the height of a regular human, but at least that can be rationalized by saying itís an early career Hank who hasnít mastered growth yet or something like that.

Like if weíre doing a Godzilla at that size, what really separates him from just any other fire-breathing lizard character? What makes it exciting that itís Godzilla and not Mimring, other than the name on the card? The whole charm of doing a Godzilla design, imo, is to really push the limits of what we can do.

If it comes down to it, I guess a double-spaced Godzilla is better than no Godzilla at all. But it feels like weíre giving up on the most important aspect of this character without even trying because it seems difficult, and that drains all my enthusiasm for the idea.


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