Re: Gen Con 2010 Main Event Armies
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Re: Gen Con 2010 Main Event Armies
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Matthias used Hawthorne to break Mantrainchoochoo's rat screen on day 2, and he came within a hair's breadth of winning. Hawthorne is especially nice because you get ratkilling and knights in one OM... but the d20 can ruin your day. Quote:
10th/Raelin/Marcus definitely has the edge on knights, yeah. RoninValentina beat that exact army in the round of 16 on day 2 with knights (after losing to it on day 1, I think), but the defense glyph probably made a big difference there. The Braxas/Greenscale build is intriguing. Of all the GSW builds, it's the only one that hasn't made a big splash on the competitive scene yet. |
Re: Gen Con 2010 Main Event Armies
I enjoy playing Braxas/Raelin/Greenscales. This summer it has been my second favorite army (behind Knights). The only problem with this army is in dealing with large/huge figures. When playing Braxas/Raelin/Greenscales, I haven't been able to answer the question, "How do I beat Q9?"
I agree that few play WoA, but if the rats weren't available to be played, I suspect that WoA, Romans, Dividers, etc., would be the new screen for ranged figures. |
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Knights v. Mass depends a lot on the maps used. If we're talking old-school BOV maps from 2007 (Mole Hill, Arctic Divide with terrain effects, Ember Canyon Road, etc), 4th win. But with jungle and smaller footprints being more common at today's GenCons, it swings to the Knights' favor.
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Okay. I've been thinking about the whole Q9, Rats, Raelin things since the tournament ended. Meanwhile, I'm looking ahead to NHSD'10. The point total for the event here in Nor-Cal is going to be 460. One of the first armies that came to mind is:
Q9 Hydra Rats x4 460 pts - 20 hexes. Now, it's missing Raelin, but I think the extra squad of rats could help mitigate that. But the point I'm working towards here is the format for our tourney is an army swap. You play your army the first round, and then each round after you get an army drawn at random. You're also never allowed to play the same army twice. If I brought such an army, it'd be possible to see how well it does in the hands of four other players at the same event. Will such an army go 5-0? Or how many times will it lose? Will those losses correlate to player records or the armies they faced? Since we'll be keeping track of both player records and army records over the event, it might be possible to draw some conclusions on the whole thing. I haven't committed to doing this yet, but if I did it would be for science (SCIENCE!) and that's kinda tempting. On the other hand, I have to see Menchi and Fishtako at these events, and I don't want them to punch me in the face. ;) |
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For the record, Ronin, you have my vote. That army and tournament sound like a lot of fun. Now, you could bring Raelin by dropping two rat squads, and once the opponent breaks through the rat screen, bring Raelin up to the front lines to draw a little fire and possibly keep squads off of Q9 a little longer. Even sit her on a glyph (if available) to make the opponent deal with her instead of Q9.
Just a little theoryscape to satisfy my hunger. OR... you could go with 4x rats. |
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The problem is I like to play them with things with units like Brandis Skyhunter and Morsebane. |
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I think the 2xrat/Raelin version makes more sense. It's not as ridiculous in its best matchups, but it's much more versatile. Against a Nilf/GSW or Grimnak/Heavy Grut build, the rat version without Raelin sort of falls apart. Raelin-backed Hydra is your bailout in those matchups.
If there were some good Heavy Grut and Greenscale builds, or even a nice Kaemon/Stinger build, I would not expect a random assortment of people to go 5-0 with that army. It's very powerful, but the OM management isn't trivial, particularly against anyone with special attacks. |
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