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Owlman May 15th, 2020 09:38 AM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
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Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2383300)
If you go Vlad, an Impaler power would be cool.
Where he leaves the bodies of destroyed figures on the battlefield as trophies and to breed fear.

I had a power called "Impale" but no ones going for it apparently, haha :P

Tornado May 15th, 2020 10:05 AM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
Right on. The image of the fallen left on display felt cool and theme-y.
I thought there was hesitation to card actual people.?

flameslayer93 May 15th, 2020 01:13 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
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Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2383330)
Right on. The image of the fallen left on display felt cool and theme-y.
I thought there was hesitation to card actual people.?

I believe only 1 person has said they were hesitant to card real people. I get that.

Ketchupgeek May 15th, 2020 01:21 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
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Originally Posted by flameslayer93 (Post 2383434)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2383330)
Right on. The image of the fallen left on display felt cool and theme-y.
I thought there was hesitation to card actual people.?

I believe only 1 person has said they were hesitant to card real people. I get that.

You can always work around it in this case that the card is based on the "legend" of Vlad the Impaler and the rumors of things he did and less about the actual guy. Did he actually paralyze people with his stare? No. But is it believable for the legend? You betcha.

Heroscaper Guy May 15th, 2020 01:44 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flameslayer93 (Post 2383434)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2383330)
Right on. The image of the fallen left on display felt cool and theme-y.
I thought there was hesitation to card actual people.?

I believe only 1 person has said they were hesitant to card real people. I get that.

And if its an issue we can just call him dalv.

flameslayer93 May 16th, 2020 06:49 AM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
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Originally Posted by Heroscaper Guy (Post 2383456)
Quote:

Originally Posted by flameslayer93 (Post 2383434)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2383330)
Right on. The image of the fallen left on display felt cool and theme-y.
I thought there was hesitation to card actual people.?

I believe only 1 person has said they were hesitant to card real people. I get that.

And if its an issue we can just call him dalv.


That's ok, I was jokingly calling him Chadmir in the discord lol.


Back to serious mode:
Since an attack aura has been discussed (and certainly needs to be toned down both for the Master Set and for the actual metagame...), I'll toss out the simplicity of Attack Aura 1 again. As long as he has a power that is good in battle (such as Paralyzing Stare, Gore or a rename of it), the theme of him scaring his own troops so much that they'll fight harder will come through nicely. Plus, since powers are effectively reuses, we make Scytale's life easier. ;)



Quote:

Vlad Dracula :utgar:
Human/Warlord/Terrifying/Medium 5
5 Life/5 Move/1 Range/3 Attack/4 Defense


Attack Aura 1: Adjacent melee dudes get +1 attack.
Paralyzing Stare 16: On a 16+, dudes Vlad attacks can't roll defense.
Gore: +1 wound to heroes that Vlad damages.
90 points

Owlman May 16th, 2020 12:30 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
So I was thinking, what if we make Vlad a throwback to Ornak in some respects?

Also, would anyone be open to the idea of instead recycling MBS's shtick, instead it becomes sort of a reversal when a Hero decides to attack Vlad?

(My wording may be too complicated here, just a rough draft)

Like this:


Vlad Tepes Dracula
Human/Warlord/Terrifying/Medium 5
5 Life/5 Move/1 Range/4 Attack/3 Defense
120-140 pts??)


Ruthless Warlord
If Order Marker 1 is placed on Vlad, then instead of taking a turn with Vlad, you may destroy an adjacent Squad figure you control, then immediately take a turn with 1 Squad you control who follows Utgar. Each figure in the Squad moved in this way may add 1 to their Movement and Attack dice for this turn. (All Squad figures used in this way must be within 8 clear sight spaces of Vlad before moving.)

Paralyzed with Fear
When an adjacent Unique Hero would choose to attack Vlad, you must roll the 20 sided die. On a 16 or higher, that figure may not attack Vlad, and immediately ends its turn.

Gore
When Vlad successfully wounds a Unique Hero, you may choose an adjacent Squad figure, and destroy it.

(Granted that version of Gore may be a little powerful...)

Pumpkin_King May 16th, 2020 01:46 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
We need to keep in mind complexity levels. 3 powers is a lot, especially when they do everything that they do.

Also, yeah, we should probably find another Romanian name that still brings to mind Vlad.

Making him a warlord is a great idea.

What about combining the “bonus for killing” with an aura - if he destroys a figure, the rest of the round he adds 1 to all figures adjacent and himself?

Owlman May 16th, 2020 02:41 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
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Originally Posted by Pumpkin_King (Post 2384013)
We need to keep in mind complexity levels. 3 powers is a lot, especially when they do everything that they do.

Also, yeah, we should probably find another Romanian name that still brings to mind Vlad.

Making him a warlord is a great idea.

What about combining the “bonus for killing” with an aura - if he destroys a figure, the rest of the round he adds 1 to all figures adjacent and himself?

I personally love the Gore ability moreso than any Stare ability, although the way I worded it is more like Cleave tho, I realized...*face palm*

I'm a big fan of the full "Vlad Tepes Dracula" as a full name.

Pumpkin_King May 16th, 2020 04:39 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
I suppose we do have Spartacus in classic.

Heroscaper Guy May 16th, 2020 05:19 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpkin_King (Post 2384113)
I suppose we do have Spartacus in classic.

Crixus and Parmenio say hi.

flameslayer93 May 16th, 2020 05:20 PM

Re: [Pod 2] Sorin of the Eternal Thirst
 
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Originally Posted by Pumpkin_King (Post 2384113)
I suppose we do have Spartacus in classic.

And isnt there the einar sniper from C3V who was a real guy?


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