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Scytale November 10th, 2010 01:41 PM

Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion
 

We are open for business! :D

Just as a reminder, these are the general features that we will be judging on, so keep them in mind for your nominations:
  • Balance-Are the points correct?
  • Playability-Are the powers clear and understandable? Are its master stats appropriate? If it is Large or Huge, what type of base does it use? Is it visually distinct from pre-existing units?
  • Creativity-Does it add something new to the game?
  • Theme-Does it fit in the HS universe?
  • Accessibility-Is the sculpt, or sculpts, available, at a reasonable price, and with limited modification? To help with this, it is encouraged that a link to the mini is included with the nomination (check out Lamaclown's list of mini sites for help with that). Per our new guidelines, we are no longer considering this at the time of review.
Our mission is to review custom units for balance, playability and creativity and to approve deserving candidates for inclusion in HeroScape play. Approved figures will fit in the HeroScape canon thematically and will be suitably priced.

We rely on community involvement in nominating units which will then be playtested by a panel of judges. Judges are permanently appointed, and serve until they choose to step down. The current Judges are:Soldiers of Valhalla display thread (inducted units)
SoV & C3V Books of Index

Week at HSers SoV Interview Part I
Week at HSers SoV Interview Part II


units pending acceptance for review

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units under Unified Fanscape review

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units currently being reviewed

Rujin by Sir Heroscape
Yes - 3 (Scytale, superfrog, and wriggz)
No - 1 (BiggaBullfrog)
not yet voted - 1 (Astroking112)
Xundar (primary) by Sir Heroscape
Yes - 3 (Scytale, BiggaBullfrog, and superfrog)
No - 0
not yet voted - 2 (Soundwarp SG-1 and Astroking112)
Shadow Binder (secondary) by Sir Heroscape
Yes - 3 (Scytale, BiggaBullfrog, and superfrog)
No - 0
not yet voted - 2 (Soundwarp SG-1 and Astroking112)
Shadow Fiend (secondary) by Sir Heroscape
Yes - 3 (Scytale, BiggaBullfrog, and superfrog)
No - 0
not yet voted - 2 (Soundwarp SG-1 and Astroking112)
Shadow Hound (secondary) by Sir Heroscape
Yes - 3 (Scytale, BiggaBullfrog, and superfrog)
No - 0
not yet voted - 2 (Soundwarp SG-1 and Astroking112)
Soontir Van by Arch-vile
Yes - 1 (Scytale)
No - 0
not yet voted - 5 (capsocrates, superfrog, wriggz, and BiggaBullfrog)
Specters of Aldorn by Leaf It
Yes - 3 (superfrog, Scytale, and All Your Pie)
No - 0
not yet voted - 2 (capsocrates and wriggz)
Clayton Pierce by Discord group
Yes - 0
No - 1 (Scytale)
not yet voted - 4 (capsocrates, superfrog, Soundwarp SG-1, and wriggz)
Catalan Mercenaries by Scytale
Yes - 0
No - 0
not yet voted - 5 (capsocrates, wriggz, BiggaBullfrog, All Your Pie, and Astroking112)
Swaysil by Maklar the Silver Prince
Yes - 1 (Scytale)
No - 0
not yet voted - 4 (capsocrates, wriggz, All Your Pie, and Astroking112)
Beakface Rogue by Sir Heroscape and wriggz
Yes - 0
No - 0
not yet voted - 5 (Scytale, capsocrates, superfrog, Soundwarp SG-1, BiggaBullfrog)
Agrith-Naar by Sir Heroscape
Yes - 0
No - 0
not yet voted - 5 (Scyale, capsocrates, Soundwarp SG-1, wriggz, and All Your Pie)
Great Axes of Ironstone by Leaf It
Yes - 0
No - 0
not yet voted - 5 (Scyale, superfrog, BiggaBullfrog, All Your Pie, and Astroking112)
Dalmar Stonewall by Leaf It
Yes - 0
No - 0
not yet voted - 5 (Scyale, superfrog, BiggaBullfrog, All Your Pie, and Astroking112)
Olog by The Long eared bat
Yes - 0
No - 0
not yet voted - 5 (Scyale, superfrog, wriggz, BiggaBullfrog, and All Your Pie)
Kate Crawford by Pumpkin King
Yes - 0
No - 0
not yet voted - 5 (Scyale, capsocrates, superfrog, BiggaBullfrog, and All Your Pie)
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units under final United Fanscape review

Lilja by Lamaclown

Scytale November 10th, 2010 01:41 PM

SECTION 1: Submission guidelines and tips
1. Any number of units may be nominated in a single post, including "synergistic" units that function best as a group. When nominating multiple units, you may choose one of four options for your submission:
a) Choose a unit to be the "primary" unit of the submission, and the rest to be "secondary" units. The "primary" unit may pass by itself without the "secondary" units passing, but if the "primary" unit fails, all "secondary" units will be withdrawn. "Secondary" units will be judged based on the "primary" unit.
b) Designate the entire submission as a "faction". For a "faction" submission, if a single unit fails, the remainder of the "faction" will be withdrawn.
c) Choose a group of units (more than one but less than the total number of submissions) to be the "primary" group and the remainder to be the "secondary" group. The "primary" group will be considered as a "faction" under Section 1-1b, and the "secondary" units will be considered as "secondary" units under Section 1-1a in relation to the "primary" group.
d) All units stand or fall on their own merit, as if they were separate nominations.
2. Nominated units require a card formatted in a manner that is easy to read.
3. Sculpts must be known, readily available and appropriately scaled, with consideration taken for cost and for labor, such as paint, required to obtain the sculpt. sites that sell minis (maintained by Lamaclown)
4. All units suggested should fit thematically within the Heroscape universe. Units should follow a Heroscape general and should normally include an origin world that is part of the Heroscape canon.
5. Anyone can nominate a unit for consideration. Nominated units require a majority vote (50%+1) of the Council before they will be considered for review.
6. Do NOT slap a unit together and nominate it for consideration. Game play experience and observations are encouraged. The SoV is a tool for ensuring balance, not for helping refine a rough draft. (The Pre-SoV Workshop is a great place to look for help refining a unit before submitting it here.)

SECTION 2: How units are judged
Units nominated for consideration will go through the following process after a majority of acceptance votes by the judges:
1. Units accepted for review will be playtested competitively at least once by five judges.
2. Consideration for approved units will be given, generally, based on the following criteria and in this order: balance, playability, creativity, and theme.
3. Time for consideration is: as long as it takes for the judges to make an informed decision.
4. Great units will be approved, not good ones. Don't let this discourage you.
5. Judge discussions will occur in public and private forums on the non-official Heroscape web site: Currently www.heroscapers.com
6. Reviews on units will be public with status and results presented.
7. Units must receive 4 reviews supporting induction and no more than 1 review against induction in order to be considered for acceptance into the Soldiers of Valhalla, after which they will be reviewed by the C3V and if approved there will be re-formatted and given the Soldiers of Valhalla Seal of Approval and admitted into the C3V as well.

SECTION 3: Self-governance
1. The Council will contain a number of judges that the sitting judges find appropriate, but never less than 5.
2. Judges will maintain their position unless:
a) They are not heard from by fellow judges on the official non-official Heroscape web site for a period of 31 days, or
b) They abstain for a total of three months or for three consecutive units under review, whichever comes later.
3. If a vacancy on the council occurs, judges will be replaced by those who:
a) show interest in serving, and
b) after consideration of the sitting judges receive 75 % vote of approval. Voting and discussion of a replacement judge may occur in private.
4. Judges will not be allowed to vote on their own units. During the judging of their own units their vote will be considered an abstention for the percentages needed to both playtest and approve the unit. Their vote will NOT be counted as an abstention for purposes of the "three consecutive units" portion of Section 3-2-b.
5. These by-laws may be changed and amended at any time by a 75% vote of sitting judges.


Units that have been inducted in the Soldiers of Valhalla:
:star: link to YES reviews :emptystar: link to NO reviews

Zombie Hulk (Book) by dok and Good Pig :star::star::star::star::star:
Tyrian the Kyrie Warrior (Book) by Paronychodon :emptystar::star::star::star::star::star::star:
Zettian Infantry (Book) by dok :star::star::star::star::star:
Priscus (Book) by Filthy the Clown :star::star::star::star::star::star:
Cxurg'gyath (Book) by Tolamos :star::star::star::star:
Beakface Sneaks (Book) by Super Bogue :star::star::star::star:
Hoplitron (Book) by dok :star::star::star::star:
Brimstone (Book) by Scytale :star::star::star::star:
Kantono Daishi (Book) by qt.bangerang :star::star::star::emptystar::star:
Jarek Guy (Book) by fishguy1 :star::star::star::star:
Prince Al'kahora (Book) by capsocrates :star::star::star::emptystar::star:
Asterios (Book) by the French HS Community :star::star::star::star:
Red Ants of Aunstrom (Book) by Scytale :star::star::star::star:
Cormin the Dark (Book) by Maklar the Silver Prince :star::star::star::star:
Ashi-Dhulu (Book) by MegaSilver :star::star::star::star:
Urk (Book) by Ninja Status and superfrog :star::star::star::star:
Executioner 616 (Book) by Dysole :star::star::star::star:
Kon-Tar-Na (Book) by dok :star::star::star::star:
Viceron the Blood Knight (Book) by Ixe :star::star::star::star:
Maltis Tez (Book) by Leaf It :star::emptystar::star::star::star:
Tetraites (Book) by Sir Heroscape :star::star::star::star:
Bol (Book) by The Dewk :star::star::star::star:
Uzog (Book) by Kinseth :star::star::star::star:
Kha (Book) by kolakoski :star::star::star::star:
Rendar Fy (Book) by capsocrates :star::star::star::star:

Units that were reviewed but not approved for Soldiers of Valhalla:
:star: link to YES reviews :emptystar: link to NO reviews

Gor'Vath by robbdaman :emptystar: :emptystar:
Priscus by Filthy the Clown :star: :emptystar: :star: :star: :emptystar:
Zombiekazes by hextr1p :emptystar: :emptystar:
Blood Raptor by krysto2002 :emptystar: :emptystar:
Eremon Vandel by clancampbell :emptystar: :emptystar:
Unukk by GameBear :emptystar: :emptystar:
Crypt Guards by Super Bogue :emptystar: :emptystar:
77th Infantry Division by tcgkln :emptystar: (withdrawn by designer)
Green Wyrmling by killercactus :emptystar: :star: :emptystar:
Gatekeepers by Darkmage7a :emptystar: :emptystar:
Deepwater Warrior by dok :emptystar: :emptystar:
Rat Swarms by Killometer :star: :emptystar: :emptystar:
Ibixian Ridge Raiders by Typhon2222 and Sertorius :emptystar: :emptystar:
Herd Chief Baabas by Typhon2222 and Sertorius :emptystar: (withdrawn by designer)
Horned Skull Champion by qt.bangerang :emptystar: :emptystar:
Gargoyle by dok :emptystar: :emptystar:
Beakface Sneaks by Super Bogue (withdrawn by designer)
Gor'Vath by robbdaman :emptystar: :emptystar:
Skeleton Archers by Typhon2222 and Sertorius :emptystar: :emptystar:
Buccaneers of the Endless Sea by Super Bogue :emptystar: :emptystar:
Dashi Takainto by qt.bangerang :star: :star: :star: :emptystar::emptystar:
Clyemne by DeathDoom :emptystar: :emptystar:
Vargach by Kaemon Awa 123 :emptystar: :emptystar:
Khophawet by Typhon2222 :star: :emptystar: :emptystar:
Rorshack by William099 :emptystar: :emptystar:
Tentacles of the Kraken by qt.bangerang :emptystar: (withdrawn by designer)
Threforian Raptor by Fi Skitara :emptystar: :emptystar:
Greenspawn Assassin by boromir96 and awesomeunleashed :emptystar: (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Ragweb Spider by Son of Arathorn :star: (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Shaitahn by Son of Arathorn :star::star::emptystar::emptystar:
Wraith of Bleakewood by qt.bangerang :emptystar: (withdrawn by designer)
Horned Skull Champion by qt.bangerang :star: (withdrawn by designer)
Kheris Fhen by the French HS Community :star::emptystar::emptystar:
Grommel Bronzewielder by Son of Arathorn :emptystar::emptystar:
Kantono Daishi by qt.bangerang :star: :star: :star: :star: (withdrawn by designer)
Sundol by vegetarian18 :star::emptystar::star::emptystar:
Thorseby Woodsmen by Tai-Pan :star: :emptystar: :emptystar:
Kar-Su-Na by Son of Arathorn (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Pavin Nahz by Arch-vile (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Pygar Fasir by McHotcakes
:emptystar::emptystar:
Gruoark by Toogwick_tuk:emptystar::emptystar:
Rampage by William099 :emptystar::emptystar:
Knights of Aundair by Kinseth (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Urk by Ninja Status (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Thrangir by superfrog :emptystar::emptystar:
Warden 722 by dok :star::emptystar::emptystar:
Elgos Knights by Ixe :emptystar::emptystar:
Viceron the Dark Knight by Ixe :star::star::emptystar::emptystar:
Kobolds of Idona Keep by Boot Camp of Valhalla (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Retchtongue Warband (primary) by Kinseth :emptystar::emptystar:
Ragsh Skullcrusher (secondary) by Kinseth :emptystar::emptystar:
Gruul the Wicked (secondary) by Kinseth :emptystar::emptystar:
Uzog by Kinseth :star::emptystar::emptystar:
Viceron the Blood Knight by Ixe :emptystar::emptystar:
Swaysil of the Northlands by Maklar the Silver Prince :emptystar::emptystar:
Rampage by William099 :emptystar::emptystar:
Jaraptara by Kinseth :emptystar::star::emptystar:
Maltis Tez by Leaf_It (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Uzog by Kinseth :emptystar::emptystar:
Maltis Tez by Leaf_It (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Jack of Blades by BiggaBullfrog (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Agent Fawcett by Soundwarp SG-1 :emptystar::star::emptystar:
Drow Assassin by Leaf_It (did not pass unified fanscape review)
Johann Graybeard by DewNoHarm :emptystar::emptystar:
Specters of Aldorn by Leaf_It :emptystar: (withdrawn by designer)
Xundar (primary) by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn by designer)
Shadow Binder (secondary) by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn by designer)
Shadow Fiend (secondary) by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn by designer)
Shadow Hound (secondary) by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn by designer)
Agrah Fenh by superfrog :emptystar::emptystar:
Soontir Van by Arch-vile :emptystar::emptystar:
Specters of Aldorn by Leaf_It :emptystar::emptystar:
Beakface Archer (primary) by Sir Heroscape and wriggz :star::star::star::emptystar::emptystar:
Beakface Rogue (secondary) by Sir Heroscape and wriggz :star::star::star::emptystar::emptystar:
Masha Shingai by Astrokin112 :star::emptystar::star::emptystar:

tcglkn November 10th, 2010 02:22 PM

Re: SoV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Killometer (Post 1257334)
1. Nominated units require a card formatted in a manner that is easy to read.

Does that mean I could create my own card layout if I wanted to?

1Mmirg November 10th, 2010 02:24 PM

Re: Soldiers of Valhalla nominations and discussion
 
It does mean that, though in the end I believe that we are looking for cards to fit fully within the Heroscape world (note #3 above). So, it's likely that we'd end up doing a revision of the card to match other Heroscape cards.

This is still a point of some discussion among the judges, but in my mind #3 implies a standard Heroscape card at some point.

Killometer November 10th, 2010 02:27 PM

Re: SoV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tcglkn (Post 1257372)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Killometer (Post 1257334)
1. Nominated units require a card formatted in a manner that is easy to read.

Does that mean I could create my own card layout if I wanted to?

Yes, any well organized card is allowable for review, but accepted units will be reformatted to a traditional HS-style card.

tcglkn November 10th, 2010 02:33 PM

Re: Soldiers of Valhalla nominations and discussion
 
Do you have an art guy for this project? I would be totally willing to lead on that front. I just do not have the time to playtest that would be needed to judge.

1Mmirg November 10th, 2010 02:36 PM

Re: Soldiers of Valhalla nominations and discussion
 
Thanks for the offer. We'll talk about it and let you know. Of course, first a card has to actually make it past our grueling review--might be months, even years... :D.

tcglkn November 10th, 2010 02:39 PM

Re: Soldiers of Valhalla nominations and discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1Mmirg (Post 1257382)
Thanks for the offer. We'll talk about it and let you know. Of course, first a card has to actually make it past our grueling review--might be months, even years... :D.

Why do you think I am willing to help? ;) Won't be much work. But I would love to design a stamp, then create a good card for each unit we passed with the stamp. atmospro is supposed to hook me up with his production quality template soon. 8)

Lamaclown November 10th, 2010 03:58 PM

Re: Soldiers of Valhalla nominations and discussion
 
Since any nominated card must have an available miniature to go with it you can check the availability of your miniature using the links below to various online miniatures games stores.

Site Sponsors:

Auggie's

Cool Stuff, Inc.

Miniature Market

Troll and Toad

Wargamer's Headquarters
(House Mouse Games is a Site Sponsor as well. The above list represents the Site Sponsors who carry other games in addition to Heroscape)

Other Stores:

Fantization (one of my favorites)

Games Empire

FRP Games (another really good one)

RPG Shop This one seems to have disappeared

Noble Knight Games

Paizo

The Warstore

Reaper Mini

Crocodile Games

Privateer Press (Hordes, Warmachine, Monsterpocalypse, Voltron [if only Voltron was the right scale])

Role 4 Initiative (D&D)

Wyrd Miniatures (Malifaux)

Games Workshop (I know, I know, but some people do use their sculpts)

Icon USA

Team Covenant (they specialize in Monster Apocalypse)

There are others but if a miniature used for a custom can't be found on any of these sites, chances are it is no longer available.

Also, sites like Cool Mini or Not probably wouldn't be acceptable as a source for availability. It has a gallery of some incredible paint jobs (visit it if you've never been there) but it isn't a good source to purchase from.

If you know of other stores that offer something in miniatures that you don't think any of the above offer feel free to let us know through PM and it can be added to this post.

quozl November 10th, 2010 04:20 PM

Re: Soldiers of Valhalla nominations and discussion
 
I'm not allowed not to nominate yet but I'm thinking about nominating Deathwalker 10000 by krysto2002.

flameslayer93 November 10th, 2010 04:23 PM

Re: Soldiers of Valhalla nominations and discussion
 
I can probably figure out a good nomination for a card. I'll wait on it though;)

Dad_Scaper November 11th, 2010 05:28 PM

Re: Soldiers of Valhalla nominations and discussion
 
One sneak peek:

Valkrill is ok by us. We're all about evil.


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