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Dysole June 23rd, 2021 04:46 AM

All Good
 
:thumbsup:

~Dysole, briefly

JC McMinis June 23rd, 2021 04:49 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
:thumbsup:

Ok guys and just a note. I contacted mediafire about my posting issue. they apparently no longer provide links for forums that allow the image to show so I am going to have to find a new sight to host our cards.

Taeblewalker June 23rd, 2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JC McMinis (Post 2470656)
:thumbs up:

Ok guys and just a note. I contacted mediafire about my posting issue. they apparently no longer provide links for forums that allow the image to show so I am going to have to find a new sight to host our cards.

Bummer.

Confred June 23rd, 2021 10:10 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JC McMinis (Post 2470656)
:thumbsup:

Ok guys and just a note. I contacted mediafire about my posting issue. they apparently no longer provide links for forums that allow the image to show so I am going to have to find a new sight to host our cards.

I mean. Just become a Heroscapers site supporter. It's inexpensive, helps the cause, and grants unlimited storage

Confred June 23rd, 2021 10:14 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Design passes!
@Tornado is next lead. @Sir Yeshua is lead after that.

Nomination deadline is July 9.
Expiration deadline is Friday after that.

Tornado June 24th, 2021 07:19 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I am thinking we round out the trio with Ariel.
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.o...=0&w=240&h=320

Confred June 24th, 2021 09:50 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2470716)
I am thinking we round out the trio with Ariel.
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.o...=0&w=240&h=320

Fun!

Taeblewalker June 24th, 2021 03:55 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2470716)
I am thinking we round out the trio with Ariel.
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.o...=0&w=240&h=320

YES!!!!

Shiftrex June 24th, 2021 06:33 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Totally on board! I recognized the art immediately :D

Taeblewalker June 24th, 2021 06:43 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I recall her making a sorcerous shield to block lightning eye bolts from Gemini.

Tornado June 24th, 2021 08:02 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
The main thing I remember is her binding magic, like magic handcuffs.
She was good at taking out the evil sorcerer of the week.

Taeblewalker June 24th, 2021 08:42 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Let's not forget that her father raised her in what was basically a library, if memory serves.
She had a lot of knowledge about pre-cataclysm technology, such as helicopters.

JC McMinis June 25th, 2021 09:55 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
ok found a solution to the image hosting. Will update the display thread tomorrow.
https://scontent.fdet2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...81&oe=60DB40DE

Taeblewalker June 25th, 2021 10:26 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Great!

Shiftrex June 25th, 2021 11:30 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
That card looks awesome!

So where are we at with our current design? Are we generating ideas from source material?

Taeblewalker June 26th, 2021 12:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiftrex (Post 2471003)
That card looks awesome!

So where are we at with our current design? Are we generating ideas from source material?

As I stated before, Ariel uses a magic shield against ranged attacks; perhaps this can be modeled as something like the Phantom Knights' evasion power. She also grew up with an education in old-world (pre-cataclysmic) technology, which might give her an edge in battling Soulborgs or help her boost friendly Soulborgs in some way. I would have to do more research to figure to remember what else she can do.

Edit: Here is a good place to start.

Confred June 26th, 2021 01:43 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Watched a bit of Ariel on YouTube

She throws magic balls which could be simply represented as normal range attack

She has levitated allies
She has healed members who have no order markers
She has created magical bridges

Taeblewalker June 26th, 2021 02:04 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
It's going to be a challenge. You're right that her magic attacks are best represented by a normal attack.

Tornado June 26th, 2021 08:37 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Anything that makes her work better with Thundarr and Ookla would also be cool.
Some sort of team defensive power representing shield magic.
Maybe a binding power that stops attacks.
The bridge power would be cool but that may be hard to translate.

Tornado June 26th, 2021 01:13 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca88...xJf3ZHqWqtCq_M


Ariel
Thundarr the Barbarian
Television
Aquilla

Human
Unique Hero
Sorceress / Princess
Headstrong / Brilliant / Confident ???
Size: 4-5

Life: 4-5
Move: 5
Range: 5
Attack: 3
Defense: 2


BRIDGE / LEVITATION SPELL
When Ariel or a friendly figure within 5 clear spaces of Ariel moves, they may ignore all terrain effects and and do not roll for falling damage.

ENERGY FIELD
Ariel and any adjacent friendly Barbarians or Gladiators roll one additional die when defending against a non-adjacent attack.

ENERGY RINGS
When an opponent's figure in 5 clear sight spaces, attacks Ariel or a friendly Barbarian or Gladiator within 5 clear spaces of Ariel, you may reveal an X order marker on this card and the attacking figure's turn immediately ends.


Rough idea. Could swap out any of these for a teleportation power or a scrying (look at OMs) power or some sort of animation power.


https://mysideofthelaundryroom.files...pg?w=572&h=431

Shiftrex June 26th, 2021 02:00 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
That is an awesome draft.

My reactionary input would be asking why Aquilla over Ullar as it seems we have more focus pocus type stuff over there.

Stats look good and in line for most magic slingers.

The abilities seem like theyd be fun. Wording on the magic rings looks like it could use tweaking, but I like the idea of still allowing movement but stopping an attack.

Tornado June 26th, 2021 03:39 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Thanks. A bit difficult for me to shift back to classic meta. Had to use some restraint on the stats.
Open to any other suggestions, lots of possibilities.
Ookla and Thundarr are Aquilla so it would be weird for her to be anything else.
Could make her power hooks based on Aquilla instead of Barbarian and Gladiator. Not sure how that shakes out either way.

Taeblewalker June 26th, 2021 04:37 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Thundarr bonds with Aquilla heroes so that's a no-brainer.

SirGalahad June 27th, 2021 09:21 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JC McMinis (Post 2470996)
ok found a solution to the image hosting. Will update the display thread tomorrow.
https://scontent.fdet2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...81&oe=60DB40DE

Thanks to everyone for all of work on Nimue's design!

Taeblewalker June 27th, 2021 09:29 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I hope I was of some help!

Confred June 28th, 2021 10:20 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JC McMinis (Post 2470996)
ok found a solution to the image hosting. Will update the display thread tomorrow.
https://scontent.fdet2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...81&oe=60DB40DE

Indent the information after the bullets, specifically the first bullet?

Confred June 28th, 2021 10:33 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2471048)

Ariel
Thundarr the Barbarian
Television
Aquilla

I like this breakdown, I'm not sure we've done it like this before but am down for doing it moving forward

Quote:

Sorceress / Princess
I was thinking Sorceress. She was introduced as such several times.
Quote:

Headstrong / Brilliant / Confident ???
Ironically, her personality role is the opposite of this. Thundarr and Ookla are the Leroy Jenkins while she is the voice of reason, woman empowered

Quote:


BRIDGE / LEVITATION SPELL
When Ariel or a friendly figure within 5 clear spaces of Ariel moves, they may ignore all terrain effects and and do not roll for falling damage.
Awesome idea
Quote:


ENERGY FIELD
Ariel and any adjacent friendly Barbarians or Gladiators roll one additional die when defending against a non-adjacent attack.
fun synergy callout, but realistically she'd help anybody out. I do like that she protects her melee pod from nonmelee
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ENERGY RINGS
When an opponent's figure in 5 clear sight spaces, attacks Ariel or a friendly Barbarian or Gladiator within 5 clear spaces of Ariel, you may reveal an X order marker on this card and the attacking figure's turn immediately ends.
holy moly. Perhaps gate this with a die roll or OM reveal.

Quote:

Rough idea. Could swap out any of these for a teleportation power or a scrying (look at OMs) power or some sort of animation power.
It's a good draft. Eleven is more of the OM revealer. I feel this version is going to go the distance. I'll watch more episodes for research. Where can it be streamed?

Dysole June 28th, 2021 11:25 AM

Power Grab
 
I don't see energy rings as a breaking power. It costs an X order marker which is a decent resource but she herself is real fragile and real vulnerable to squads being a single attacker. The ability might be a bit more powerful in the endgame but you really shouldn't leave her until full health at endgame.

~Dysole, noting that keeping the boosts faction specific are probably the best way to tamp down her power

Tornado June 28th, 2021 12:34 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
My thoughts as well. Also to keep down her cost.

Confred June 28th, 2021 01:15 PM

Re: Power Grab
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dysole (Post 2471262)
I don't see energy rings as a breaking power. It costs an X order marker which is a decent resource but she herself is real fragile and real vulnerable to squads being a single attacker. The ability might be a bit more powerful in the endgame but you really shouldn't leave her until full health at endgame.

~Dysole, noting that keeping the boosts faction specific are probably the best way to tamp down her power

I somehow overlooked the OM requirement, That was even one of my fix suggestions. lol so please disregard

JC McMinis June 29th, 2021 11:26 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Nimue is in the display thread now

Confred July 3rd, 2021 01:50 AM

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Tornado July 3rd, 2021 09:26 AM

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Woah, ok.
Best wishes. Thanks for everything. You have really kept this project on track.

Confred July 3rd, 2021 10:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2472065)
Woah, ok.
Best wishes. Thanks for everything. You have really kept this project on track.

Sorry about that. Depression is a hell of a drug. Got that ish back in check. Carry on, nothing to see here 😅

JC McMinis July 4th, 2021 05:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Confred (Post 2472129)
Sorry about that. Depression is a hell of a drug. Got that ish back in check. Carry on, nothing to see here 😅

I understand this. I have struggled with this myself, as has my son and both of my daughters. Glad that you got your head back on as it were.

Shiftrex July 4th, 2021 06:20 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
BRIDGE / LEVITATION SPELL
When Ariel or a friendly figure within 5 clear spaces of Ariel moves, they may ignore all terrain effects and and do not roll for falling damage.

----> I think that this is a really powerful ability. I might suggest bringing it down to 4 because range of 5 affects a ton of spaces and will be nullifying a lot of stuff like lava. Just something to bring her a bit closer to the action maybe.

ENERGY FIELD
Ariel and any adjacent friendly Barbarians or Gladiators roll one additional die when defending against a non-adjacent attack.

----> I saw some talk about making this Aquilla figures on the last page I think? I almost prefer it focusing on Glads/Barbs, makes more sense for what I'm seeing in ye old cartoon.

ENERGY RINGS
When an opponent's figure in 5 clear sight spaces, attacks Ariel or a friendly Barbarian or Gladiator within 5 clear spaces of Ariel, you may reveal an X order marker on this card and the attacking figure's turn immediately ends.

- Really strong ability, shuts down stingers :D Makes things difficult for bonding melee if you are running the right stuff as well. For an X order marker, I'm down for this ability.

Taeblewalker July 4th, 2021 11:41 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I like it all, especially Energy Rings. I like 5 spaces for the bridge power but I understand why you think it should be 4. It might be more thematic for it to affect all Aquilla characters, possibly small or medium. I don't see why it should affect Capuan Gladiators, unless it is generalized to apply to all figures you control.

As for her ability to shoot energy as an attack, that's handled by her Range and Attack stats, just like it is for Iron Man.

Tornado July 5th, 2021 08:29 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Energy Rings would just end the turn of a single figure so if used on say the first Stinger to attack the other two would still get to attack or not?
For bonding, ending one figure's turn would not end the bonding correct?

Tornado July 11th, 2021 12:20 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Bueller, Bueller, anyone, anyone?

I think we are in good place here to proceed?

Confred July 12th, 2021 08:07 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2472935)
Bueller, Bueller, anyone, anyone?

I think we are in good place here to proceed?

I think discussion is due for power 'targeting'
  • Classes
  • Generals
  • Friendlies

JC McMinis July 12th, 2021 10:24 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Personally I think her bridge should affect all friendly figures. Been many years since I have seen the cartoon but I seem to recall her using her magic to help others not just Thundarr and Ookla

Confred July 13th, 2021 12:43 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JC McMinis (Post 2473149)
Personally I think her bridge should affect all friendly figures. Been many years since I have seen the cartoon but I seem to recall her using her magic to help others not just Thundarr and Ookla

I agree. Synergy is saucy, but not worthy of breaking character. She would help and shield any friendly not just her brawny bois.

Tornado July 13th, 2021 01:07 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
My concern is that drives up her cost and makes her best build not Thundar and Ookla.

Confred July 13th, 2021 04:12 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2473218)
My concern is that drives up her cost and makes her best build not Thundar and Ookla.

That's a good constraint to work within, we have some homework to figure out.

Confred July 13th, 2021 11:18 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Has anyone found where this series streams?
Pretty sure I watched them for the other models, but I haven't had luck finding anything. Scraps from YouTube is all

Shiftrex July 13th, 2021 11:33 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I haven't been able to find anything either, I'll look into it a bit more this weekend.

Tornado July 14th, 2021 07:20 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
If you do not have any luck, let me know and I will order the DVDs off of Amazon.

JC McMinis July 14th, 2021 09:18 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Just some more food for thought, I did see a bit on you tube where she used her magic to become invisible, though this may have been a one time thing.


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