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Dysole December 5th, 2020 01:23 AM

Soon
 
Sorry got hit with like 400 things. Will give response over the weekend.

~Dysole, noting that it's really kinda just been her and Confred for a bit now

Tornado December 5th, 2020 09:45 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I am paying attention. Do not know the character so not much to add. My classic meta is pretty rusty so I doubt I can add anything useful.

Looks underpowered to me but I am used to super heroes.

Confred December 6th, 2020 11:33 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2432669)
I am paying attention. Do not know the character so not much to add. My classic meta is pretty rusty so I doubt I can add anything useful.

Looks underpowered to me but I am used to super heroes.

I think there is room for low Point figures. Question is, is she underpowered at 45 Points? Vs the right builds she probably will have a high ROI.

I look forward to all commentary

Dysole December 7th, 2020 01:26 AM

Thoughts
 
I might finagle the wording but I like the representation of Peacemaker (although Peacemaker Revolver sounds awkward to me, but I also get that we want to specify it's the gun). I think my hang up with Tough is not that it doesn't work but more that Tough always read to me as like no-selling an ability whereas she more just tends to take a bunch of hits and keep on fighting. I still think should be 4 life and 2 defense.

What about something like

Determination 13

If Wynonna Earp would take one or more wounds from an attack, you may roll the 20 sided die. On a roll of 13 or higher, Wynonna Earp may ignore one of those wounds.

Better roll than Stealth Armor but only helps on attacks not anything else that delivers wounds so arguably worse, but she's also never shown anything like the ability to ignore lava or acid so it feels on theme that she shouldn't be helped by that. Plus it makes it so a really big hit is still gonna hurt a lot since she only ignores one wound which again matches what we've seen.

That power set is probably 50-60 points.

~Dysole, spitballing again

Confred December 7th, 2020 09:34 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I originally had just Peacemaker, so I empathize. But this way it let's others know the power comes from the gun.

I think instead of complicating Tough, it could be dropped altogether and simply have her Life upped.
Life 5

Tornado December 7th, 2020 09:44 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
How about C3G's Resilience?

If Wynonna would take one or more wounds from an attack, ignore one of those wounds.

Confred December 7th, 2020 01:53 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado (Post 2432946)
How about C3G's Resilience?

If Wynonna would take one or more wounds from an attack, ignore one of those wounds.

I like the spirit of it, but as far as the objection goes this would be even worse than Tough

Dysole December 7th, 2020 02:08 PM

Shrug
 
Eh, it's closer on theme than tough. I think Peacemaker Gun is better than Peacemaker Revolver because I don't think anyone ever calls it anything besides Peacemaker or a gun. I'm not opposed to single power card with 5 life and 2 defense. I just need to mull it over in my head first.

~Dysole, contemplative

Confred December 7th, 2020 10:11 PM

Re: Shrug
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dysole (Post 2433008)
Eh, it's closer on theme than tough. I think Peacemaker Gun is better than Peacemaker Revolver because I don't think anyone ever calls it anything besides Peacemaker or a gun. I'm not opposed to single power card with 5 life and 2 defense. I just need to mull it over in my head first.

~Dysole, contemplative

If we make it Gun, should it only be against nonadjacent attacks?

Dysole December 7th, 2020 11:16 PM

Hmm
 
She's point blanked people with the gun's magic before so my inclination is no.

~Dysole, noting that the gun itself has a whole story behind it but that isn't an iconic part of Wynonna's use of it

Confred December 8th, 2020 10:09 PM

Re: Hmm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dysole (Post 2433189)
She's point blanked people with the gun's magic before so my inclination is no.

~Dysole, noting that the gun itself has a whole story behind it but that isn't an iconic part of Wynonna's use of it

Point-blank is indeed why it currently has no range restrictions. Just wanted to confirm ;)

Confred December 9th, 2020 10:31 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Do we want the Earp Curse represented somehow?

EARP HEIR CURSE
After revealing an order marker and before taking the turn, opponents must first take a turn with one of their Demon or Undead figures. During that figure's movement, it must move closer to Wyonna Earp.

She stirs up trouble and trouble is drawn to her, she isn't always the target of their mayhem however. But as they draw closer, she blasts them to the great beyond.

Einar could summon her to draw out the Valkyrie's enemies.

Edit: This suddenly became a spicy meatball!
https://www.heroscapers.com/communit...arp_836356.png

Edit2: Figure looks like Hero's Forge to me


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