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Confred August 1st, 2017 12:47 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
On a fun sidenote, what is the best (thematically closest) enemy to pit him up against?

Confred August 1st, 2017 08:22 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Second round of playtests pitted Garin against Major Q9

He was pitifully outclassed, putting his points ceiling around 160.
110 - 160, narrowing it down.

Theme is juicy when he scrambles to get out of close combat.
It's neat that he needs both range and height.

Out of three games, powder never came into effect. Perhaps numbers need jiggering.
Then again, there are plenty of official HS cards that revolve around low probability effects.

Confred August 4th, 2017 11:46 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
To update for those joining in, basically the only thing that's left is Points value.

110 - 160

Pinning it down. Thoughts and opinions welcomed.

Edit: Yo! Check this idea:

SUN SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 8. Attack 2 + Special.
When attacking with William Garin's Sun Shot Special Attack, you may remove 1 or more black powder markers from this card. If you do, all figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by the attack and all affected figures subtract 1 defense die for each black powder marker removed.

- This way the player is encouraged to hold onto markers

Zetsubo August 5th, 2017 02:10 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Confred (Post 2158941)
SUN SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 8. Attack 2 + Special.
When attacking with William Garin's Sun Shot Special Attack, you may remove 1 or more black powder markers from this card. If you do, all figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by the attack and all affected figures subtract 1 defense die for each black powder marker removed.

- This way the player is encouraged to hold onto markers

I like it. But if we go that route, I think there needs to be a cap. Like to a maximum of three on him at one time or three used at one time

Confred August 5th, 2017 07:03 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetsubo (Post 2158949)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Confred (Post 2158941)
SUN SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 8. Attack 2 + Special.
When attacking with William Garin's Sun Shot Special Attack, you may remove 1 or more black powder markers from this card. If you do, all figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by the attack and all affected figures subtract 1 defense die for each black powder marker removed.

- This way the player is encouraged to hold onto markers

I like it. But if we go that route, I think there needs to be a cap. Like to a maximum of three on him at one time or three used at one time

The cap is him leaving the battle

But let's see what it looks like:
SUN SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 8. Attack 2 + Special.
When attacking with William Garin's Sun Shot Special Attack, you may remove 1 or more black powder markers from this card. If you do, all figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by the attack and all affected figures subtract 1 defense die for each black powder marker removed, to a maximum of 2 dice removed.

Barry allen August 6th, 2017 01:19 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Confred (Post 2158993)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetsubo (Post 2158949)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Confred (Post 2158941)
SUN SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 8. Attack 2 + Special.
When attacking with William Garin's Sun Shot Special Attack, you may remove 1 or more black powder markers from this card. If you do, all figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by the attack and all affected figures subtract 1 defense die for each black powder marker removed.

- This way the player is encouraged to hold onto markers

I like it. But if we go that route, I think there needs to be a cap. Like to a maximum of three on him at one time or three used at one time

The cap is him leaving the battle

But let's see what it looks like:
SUN SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 8. Attack 2 + Special.
When attacking with William Garin's Sun Shot Special Attack, you may remove 1 or more black powder markers from this card. If you do, all figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by the attack and all affected figures subtract 1 defense die for each black powder marker removed, to a maximum of 2 dice removed.

:thumbsup:

160 for points would fit best IMO.

Oh and Btw...
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p173543.html

Confred August 6th, 2017 11:16 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
No offense, but I don't care for that figure at all.

I thought lead had an idea for the figure from the onset?

GET THE BLACK POWDER
Before taking a turn with William Garin, you must roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 4 or lower and Garin has a black powder marker on his Army Card, remove him and all Mercenary figures you control that are adjacent to him from the battlefield. If you roll a 17 or higher, place a black powder marker on this card and roll for Get The Black Powder an additional time.

SUN SHOT SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 8. Attack 2 + Special.
When attacking with William Garin's Sun Shot Special Attack, you may remove 1 or more black powder markers from this card. If you do, all figures adjacent to the chosen figure are also affected by the attack and all affected figures subtract 1 defense die for each black powder marker removed, to a maximum of 2 dice removed.

DEADLY TRICKSHOT
When William Garin rolls attack dice for a normal attack against a figure that isn't adjacent, all skulls rolled count for one additional hit. After the attack, William Garin may attack up to two additional times.

Points: 140 - 160

JC McMinis August 8th, 2017 11:39 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I don't care for the figure either. Barry on-the-go lead on this on @Confred .

What about this one
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p114718.html

Confred August 8th, 2017 03:48 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JC McMinis (Post 2159150)
I don't care for the figure either. Barry on-the-go lead on this on @Confred .

What about this one
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p114718.html

I see
That's better
I wonder if searching for Asian, Oriental, Samurai, Chinese, etc would help

JC McMinis August 9th, 2017 08:34 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I have done several searches and found nothing else I really like. Personally I will just use Brandis Skyhunter myself.

Confred August 9th, 2017 10:51 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Small playtest - Was evenly matched against Alastair McDirk, which is 110 Points - but no walls were involved.

POINTS 130 - 150

JC McMinis August 9th, 2017 11:11 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
So 140...I'm a happy middle kind of guy.

What about this for a mini
https://www.reapermini.com/OnlineSto...er/price/02292


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