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bigbadbob March 5th, 2007 10:10 AM

Where's Thor and Loki?
 
It occured to me this morning. In a Marvel-heroscape crossover, which is meant to be played together, how can Marvel not include Thor and Loki in the initial release?! I mean, Thor and Loki LIVE in Valhalla. It would only make sense that they would be one of the starting super heroes/villians in Marvelscape.

ProSpecT March 5th, 2007 11:17 AM

I thought they lived in Asgard?

I don't think Heroscape/Marvelscape were meant too really have anything to do with each other... but after consideration they made them compatible. Still hard to tell though since MS hasn't even came out yet...

bad_calvin March 5th, 2007 12:09 PM

Thor would probably be like 400-500 points.

Tiberius March 5th, 2007 12:22 PM

Thor would be on par with teh silver surfer or Hulk power-wise. Loki, what on earth would his powers be since he is basically a sorcerer/trickster god. Mindshackle?

jcb231 March 5th, 2007 12:55 PM

I predict we'll see Thor in an expansion wave. He's a pretty iconic character and likely will not be left out. They've got to save some good stuff for the expansions.

Dennys March 5th, 2007 01:53 PM

Thor and Loki are in the back room, boozing it up with Freya, Tir and Bragi, while those dweebs Jandar, Utgar, Einar, Ullar and Vydar go around causing all sorts of mayhem at the wellsprings....

ArgosCap March 5th, 2007 04:10 PM

Actually, the fact that Thor and Loki come from Asgard, complicates any association between the Marvel Universe and the Heroscape Universe. The Valhalla of Heroscape is totally different than the one in the Marvel Universe. There is actually a Marvel character called Valkyrie, and she is an actual valkyrie from Valhalla. However, she does not have wings. In the Marvel Universe, Valhalla is a peaceful place, which is much more bland and unimaginative than the one in Heroscape. In Marvel, the more diverse and extreme battlefields are spread throughout other parts of Asgard.

Here is a description of Valhalla as it is depicted in the Marvel Universe:

"Valhalla - vahl-halla A land north of the city of Asgard, bordering Hel, that Odin set aside for the spirits of the honored dead. Valhalla has been imbued with special mystical properties making it fit only for ethereal life."

Also, as someone mentioned, Loki is a tough guy to translate, with such a wide variety of possible abilities thanks to his magic. His most notable ability is trickery, which is better used as a plot device in stories and more complicated RPGs. In a simple battle game like this, that ability would have to be translated as some kind of mind shackle or something. I'm sure they will get to him and Thor eventually, but since they aren't as straight forward as the other characters, I'm not surprised that they aren't in the starter.


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