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Firemaster July 8th, 2007 09:10 PM

The Book of Breakable Wall Section
 
The Book of Breakable Wall Section
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • - ATTACKING THE BREAKABLE WALL SECTION : Special Attacks/Powers
    Which Special Powers and Attacks can target the Breakable Wall Section?
    Per the Marvel instructions: The Breakable Wall Section may be attacked by a normal attack, a special attack, or by special powers that only cause wounds. The Breakable Wall Section cannot be targeted or attacked by special powers that may “destroy” it in one attack. Remember, that the Breakable Wall Section is not a figure, but it can be targeted and attacked much the same way a figure is targeted and attacked, with some exceptions.
  • The Breakable Wall Section does not have a size. Special Powers/Special Attacks that target or enhance the attacking figure if the defending “figure” is a certain size will not work. Examples: Deadyeye Dan’s Ullar Enhanced Rifle Special Attack, Jotun’s Throw, and Sir Denrick’s Giant Killer, & Gladiatron’s Cyberclaw
  • The Breakable Wall Section cannot be destroyed. Special Powers/Special attacks that even mention “destroy” as one of the effects cannot be used against the Breakable Wall Section. Examples: Deadeye Dan’s Sharpshooter, & Grimnak’s Chomp.
  • The Breakable Wall Section is not a figure. Special Powers that are not necessarily an attack cannot affect the Breakable Wall Section. Examples: Morsbane’s Rod of Negation, Ne-Gok-Sa’s Mind Shackle, & Agent Carr’s Ghost Walk. Also, the Breakable Wall Section is not affected by Raelin’s Defensive Aura. (Firemaster/Hasbro FAQ)
- ATTACKING THE BREAKABLE WALL SECTION : Modifiers on the attacker
Do enhancements work on the attacking figure when attacking the Breakable Wall Section?
Yes, but only if they do not specify anything about the size of the defending figure. Sir Denrick’s Giant Killer for example, cannot affect Sir Denrick because the Breakable Wall Section doesn’t have a size. Normal enhancements like Taelord’s Attack Aura, Omnicron Sniper’s Deadly Shot, Agent Carr’s Sword of Reckoning 4, and Valguard’s First Assault 3, and effects like those will all work when those figures attack the Breakable Wall Section. See the previous question for more detail on which Special Powers/Special Attacks can affect the door. (Firemaster/Hasbro FAQ)

- ATTACKING THE BREAKABLE WALL SECTION : Explosion attacks
If I target the Breakable Wall Section with an explosion attack (that also affects adjacent figures), will it affect figures that are adjacent to it, even if they are on the other side?
Yes (Firemaster/Hasbro FAQ)
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Synergy Benefits Received
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Synergy Benefits Offered
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
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dragonfire9788 July 8th, 2007 09:37 PM

(My :2cents may change when I get the figure)

Breakable wall section-Could be useful for certain scenarios. Wicked looking. Could provide some cover. C

IAmBatman July 8th, 2007 10:08 PM

Something you can stand on, that blocks LOS, and that can be partially destroyed all in one small, great looking piece. I'm eager to get my hands on at least one of these breakable wall sections!

jcb231 July 9th, 2007 12:17 PM

Unlike the castle door, I'm not sure I see why you'd ever really need to bust this thing down. Seems like you could go around pretty easy.

IAmBatman July 9th, 2007 12:27 PM

Keep in mind that the Marvel Masterset comes with pretty limited terrain. A couple of the maps in the Marvel rulebook have a real skinny chokepoint in the middle of the map that is cordoned off by the Destructible Wall.

jcb231 July 9th, 2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IAmBatman
Keep in mind that the Marvel Masterset comes with pretty limited terrain. A couple of the maps in the Marvel rulebook have a real skinny chokepoint in the middle of the map that is cordoned off by the Destructible Wall.

That'll work.

Of course every figure in the set except Captain America and Red Skull can just go over the wall. How sad that they are also the only two that will have trouble punching through it. :-(

"Hey guys! Party on the other side of the wall! Don't invite the Super Soldiers!"

IAmBatman July 9th, 2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb231
Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman
Keep in mind that the Marvel Masterset comes with pretty limited terrain. A couple of the maps in the Marvel rulebook have a real skinny chokepoint in the middle of the map that is cordoned off by the Destructible Wall.

That'll work.

Of course every figure in the set except Captain America and Red Skull can just go over the wall. How sad that they are also the only two that will have trouble punching through it. :-(

"Hey guys! Party on the other side of the wall! Don't invite the Super Soldiers!"

Ha ... good point ...

Phaethon August 19th, 2007 06:41 PM

does anyone know how targeting works with those on the wall? I assume, that since there's no 'battlement' marks, that you have to use the figures to determine LOS.

Is that correct?

Phaethon August 19th, 2007 06:41 PM

does anyone know how targeting works with those on the wall? I assume, that since there's no 'battlement' marks, that you have to use the figures to determine LOS.

Is that correct?

jcb231 August 19th, 2007 08:05 PM

I think you have to use LOS. But I don't know. The rulebook doesn't indicate there are marks, so for now I assume LOS is needed.

rdhight August 19th, 2007 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb231
Unlike the castle door, I'm not sure I see why you'd ever really need to bust this thing down. Seems like you could go around pretty easy.

The destructible wall can and should be integrated with a castle set. Using the castle, you can build a roofed, modern building to defend, with fully enclosed/barricaded firing positions, so that even Rannveig-immune leapers and swing-liners must break down the door or wall to reach those inside.

LoneDragon August 20th, 2007 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb231
Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman
Keep in mind that the Marvel Masterset comes with pretty limited terrain. A couple of the maps in the Marvel rulebook have a real skinny chokepoint in the middle of the map that is cordoned off by the Destructible Wall.

That'll work.

Of course every figure in the set except Captain America and Red Skull can just go over the wall. How sad that they are also the only two that will have trouble punching through it. :-(

"Hey guys! Party on the other side of the wall! Don't invite the Super Soldiers!"

Sucks for them. If I remember correctly, they are the only 2 without super strength, which would give them real trouble with the wall.

~Yub yub, Commander!

Ullar rocks 4553 September 28th, 2007 09:45 AM

Not really worth to put a wound, or 4 on. But if you have a narrow battlefield, and one or two of your figures cannot fly, you can bust through that sucker.

The Super Atheist September 28th, 2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb231
Unlike the castle door, I'm not sure I see why you'd ever really need to bust this thing down. Seems like you could go around pretty easy.

If a squad is waiting to ambush you behind it.

cowmaster13 December 25th, 2007 11:53 PM

the book of The Breakable Wall Section... that gave me a smile :D

Taeblewalker January 25th, 2010 12:47 AM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
Unlike the Castle Door, three Zombies of Morandin can line up outside the Breakable Wall Section to use their special attack.

lefton4ya March 14th, 2011 12:13 PM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
See Warehouse Ruin by C3G for alternative of what to do with ruin after breakable wall is destroyed.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 1194632)
The Book of Warehouse Ruin

C3G MARVEL FANTASTIC FOUR MASTER SET
FANTASTIC FORCES UNITE!


...


Taeblewalker March 14th, 2011 02:17 PM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
I see no game mechanics flaws to this at all. However, should it receive the same resistance to small or medium figures without super strength as the breakable wall section?

quozl March 17th, 2011 09:37 PM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taeblewalker (Post 1364594)
I see no game mechanics flaws to this at all. However, should it receive the same resistance to small or medium figures without super strength as the breakable wall section?

I think the idea is that without the breakable wall intact, it's weak and ready to collapse.

Astroking112 March 28th, 2011 06:45 PM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
About to buy a marvel set. Gonna set up a city on my board.

Griffin April 3rd, 2011 03:21 AM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quozl (Post 1367063)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taeblewalker (Post 1364594)
I see no game mechanics flaws to this at all. However, should it receive the same resistance to small or medium figures without super strength as the breakable wall section?

I think the idea is that without the breakable wall intact, it's weak and ready to collapse.

That is correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astroking112 (Post 1374100)
About to buy a marvel set. Gonna set up a city on my board.

Well that sounds great but to make a city you will probably need at least two Marvel sets and two castel sets.

vikinglad November 9th, 2011 03:14 AM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
I know the OP says explosions hit what is behind the wall, but what about someone on top of the warehouse? Seems like it hits them also, right? What if Shotgun Sullivan shoots the wall with his shotty, does it hit figures on top/behind the warehouse as well?

Astroking112 February 5th, 2012 01:48 AM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
I think not, since it doesn't really seem for them to be adjacent to it down there (It would be seriously cool if it did though).

vikinglad February 9th, 2012 01:26 AM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astroking112 (Post 1554616)
I think not, since it doesn't really seem for them to be adjacent to it down there (It would be seriously cool if it did though).

Thanks for the answer. I know it seems like not, but if it has no "height," how can one judge if a figure is adjacent? The hex is adjacent in the non-height dimension.

Anitar June 11th, 2017 03:47 PM

Re: The Book of the Breakable Wall Section
 
For consistency, the thread title should be "The Book of Breakable Wall Section", without the second "the".

ALEXAN2507 March 25th, 2018 05:59 PM

Re: The Book of Breakable Wall Section
 
The image is gone, "3rd party hosting temporarily disabled"
Can we get a new one?

reverie February 28th, 2020 03:29 PM

Re: The Book of Breakable Wall Section
 
Bump. Is this still around somewhere?

quozl February 28th, 2020 03:42 PM

Re: The Book of Breakable Wall Section
 
Fixed!

reverie March 1st, 2020 12:23 AM

I there a PDF link for this one?

edit: Oh, duh. It's the official one.


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