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IAmBatman February 22nd, 2011 09:40 AM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
Blob, Spider-girl, Jean Grey, and Graviton can all currently prevent Beyonder from getting into lava and Magneto can toss him back out.
I dunno, the proposed power line just sounded cheesy and customy. But if it's going to ruin the unit for you guys without it, I understand, and think some sort of line should be on there ... do you guys have any other wording possibilities for it?

GreyOwl February 22nd, 2011 09:45 AM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirGalahad (Post 1347079)
We can use the same language as in the DO rules:

Quote:

Figures may never be placed on uneven terrain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie (Post 1347093)
:ninja: I was just researching to say the same thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman (Post 1347096)
That I'd go for.

Updated.

Aldin February 22nd, 2011 10:57 AM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
You could make it bigger:

Dimensional twisting
Terrain effects on all terrain within 4 (8?) spaces of Beyonder are cancelled.

~Aldin, stripping the puny mortals of their petty defenses

IAmBatman February 22nd, 2011 11:10 AM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
I think it'd have to be 10 spaces to really do the trick given how easily he can move units around with both his summoning and Mere Pawns.
So would this mean that Namor couldn't use water for special powers? Or just that everyone could pass through water without stopping and lost their defensive bonuses on shadow tiles (and, of course, the lava part). Is the +1 to defense against ranged attacks for Jungle Trees considered a terrain effect?

Aldin February 22nd, 2011 11:25 AM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman (Post 1347365)
I think it'd have to be 10 spaces to really do the trick given how easily he can move units around with both his summoning and Mere Pawns.
So would this mean that Namor couldn't use water for special powers? Or just that everyone could pass through water without stopping and lost their defensive bonuses on shadow tiles (and, of course, the lava part). Is the +1 to defense against ranged attacks for Jungle Trees considered a terrain effect?

I think a bigger effect has a certain level of awesomeness to it so I'm kinda liking 10 spaces. Since it cancels the effects and not the type, Namor should still receive the benefit of being on water and all terrain dependant abilities should function. I think it treats Molten Lava, Lava Rock, Heavy Ice, Heavy Snow, Water, Shadow and spaces adjacent to Jungle as if they cause no damage, have no effect on movement and offer no shield boosts.

~Aldin, world warpingly

IAmBatman February 22nd, 2011 11:28 AM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
Works for me. :-) I think this is probably the best way to go here. Thanks for the great feedback, Aldin. :-)

GreyOwl February 22nd, 2011 05:55 PM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aldin (Post 1347355)
You could make it bigger:

Dimensional twisting
Terrain effects on all terrain within 4 (8?) spaces of Beyonder are cancelled.

~Aldin, stripping the puny mortals of their petty defenses

Great idea, I love it! I updated the first post.

Anyone have other changes they'd like to see?

IAmBatman February 22nd, 2011 08:43 PM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
Hmm ... not 100% on that "are canceled" language, actually, now that I look at it again ...


DIMENSIONAL TWISTING
All terrain within 10 spaces of Beyonder does not have terrain effects.

?

GreyOwl February 22nd, 2011 10:50 PM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
Works for me. Either way, I think we'll need an FAQ for that power to explain exactly what it entails. But I'm okay with that.

IAmBatman February 22nd, 2011 10:57 PM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
Cool. It's a final editing issue anyway. Anyway, here's my preemptive vote for playtesting.

GreyOwl February 22nd, 2011 10:58 PM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - ERB Phase
 
I went ahead and updated the first post anyway.

I propose we move Beyonder to Playtesting.

Hahma February 22nd, 2011 11:05 PM

Re: The Book of Beyonder - VOTE for Playtesting
 
YEA

Great work fellas:D


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