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Why not? How thematically cool would that be!
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Neo would be able to attack all figures adjacent to him twice. I kinda like it.
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Would the powers stack like that or would Double Attack need to be reworded?
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Double Attack says the figure can attack twice in a turn. Whirlwind Assault says the figure can attack any or all adjacent figures when making a normal attack. Would Double Attack actually allow you to use Whirlwind Assault and then use it again?
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I noticed Balantai had posted a reworded double attack above that specified normal attack... thus coinciding with the wording for whirlwind assault..
Right here: Double Attack When Neo attacks with his normal attack, he may attack with his normal attack one additional time. |
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I like the idea of letting Neo basically have 2 "normal" attack phases, but I'm just not convinced that Double attack would allow Whirlwind Assault twice. Both modify the number of normal attacks a figure can make within an attack phase. Double Attack allows 2 attacks during the attack phase while Whirlwind Assault allows 1-6 attacks during the normal attack phase.
DOUBLE ATTACK When Neo attacks with his normal attack, he may attack with his normal attack one additional time. WHIRLWIND ASSAULT This Figure may attack any or all figures adjacent to it. Roll each attack separately. If we want to give Neo 2 attack phases, we need something different than Double Attack, IMO. Maybe something like this: (INSERT NAME) After taking a turn with Neo, you may take another turn with Neo in which Neo can only attack. Or maybe he gets a modification of Frenzy that would let him take a second whole turn with a successful d20 roll. |
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I think I'd rather word Double Attack in a way that makes it clear that it doesn't stack with Whirlwind Assault.
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I'm fine with that. What is your suggestion?
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Double Attack
When this figure attacks with his normal attack, he may attack with his normal attack 1 additional time. When using Double Attack, you may not attack more than 2 times in the same turn. How does this look? |
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Evar's ability only affects adjacent figures which is a significant change in Double Attack. My above wording does not change Double Attack in any way, but instead just further defines what already happens. |
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We have an issue where Double Attack and Whirlwind Assault could show up on the same card so we're trying to reword Double Attack so that it's clear what you can do on your turn. |
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Ahh, I actually have a similar issue that came up on a custom superhero I created. Here was my solution:
(Unit Name) may attack any or all figures adjacent to him, or may attack one figure one additional time. Roll attack dice separately. |
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You could rename Whirlwind Assault and mention on the end that you can't use Double Attack if you use it. That would be better. |
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Isn't Whirlwind Assault a power glyph? Is it too much of an issue to add onto Double Attack "when Neo attacks with Double Attack, he may not use a power on a Power Glyph" or some such wording.
~Dysole, wondering if renaming Whirlwind Assault is better |
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Another solution might be to simply add a power somewhere on Neo's card that says he can only use one downloaded ability per attack phase. :reapershrug: |
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LOTS OF GUNS
When Neo attacks with his normal attack, he may attack one additional time. When Neo uses Lots Of Guns, he may not use any Power Glyph on his card that would allow him to attack more than two times this turn. |
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With LOTS OF GUNS
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Just Noticed...
So did we want Neo to bond with Knights?
~Dysole, trying to figure out how that would affect his point cost |
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I like it, Mac. I like it a lot. He looks really fun to play. Are we ready for cost?
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Since we're doing Neo while within the Matrix, wouldn't he be a Program?
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I'm really liking the new draft.
My two cents on the classifications are General-Aquilla Species-Human Class-Fighter Personality-Resolute I really see Neo as being spiritually connected to the M-43 Resistance Fighters, seeing as they have similar back stories and goals. So I see him sharing most of their traits. |
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Hey guys sorry I have not been around for a while. I dont currently have internet at home. Until I do I withdraw myself from the rotation. However when I can get to the library to check on things I will pop in and make a comment or two.
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No worries, McHotcakes. HoSS has been stealing time from this project on us due to the release date right around the corner and all the stress that goes along with it. I anticipate that we'll be moving full speed ahead after May 4th.
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This project hasn't died has it? :(
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Agreed. In my neck of the woods, The Gang of Four (Kolakaski, Shermandavies, Chas and myself) are looking to play on a map called Escape from Endor. We're just as stoked about HoSS as anyone. But I'll finish writing up my Blob unit soon.
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Did we ever finalize Neo? I think we were still hammering out the details - General, Class, Personality, Point Cost...
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I still see him as a Champion. Conflicted might be an apt Personality Points...150-ish Also, are we OK with the 3 additional power glyphs? |
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I like all of your suggestions, but I prefer Conflicted to Champion. This version of Neo is prior to being the all powerful Neo of the later films. His personality should reflect that time period, also.
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Might've Missed It
Was there a discussion about it being okay that he bonded with knights?
~Dysole, not really sure if that's the best |
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