Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

That's why I want to watch the series. With these older shows sometimes a character will do something once then never again. If that were to be translated to scape, it could be scenario specific

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

I don't think we want her to have more than three powers. I understand that allowing her powers to affect units other than Thundarr and Ookla might encourage people to not use those two units in an Ariel build, but I think the idea of using them will not only appeal to fans of the show, but will also be a viable option.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

I guess it depends how good those other builds are and what that causes her final cost to be and if that final cost stills makes her decent in a Thundarr and Ookla build.
I do not know the meta well enough to even speculate that so it may not even be a concern.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

What is the Thundarr and Ookla build lacking?

What if she's good in other pods, but for their pod she is better than other options?

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

just went back and looked at Thundarr, his Ookla, Ariel, Ride ability we limited to Unique heroes who followed Aquilla.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

When I used him I had Sujoah in the army. It was a fun game.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Ok card thus far during our discussions
https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...46&oe=60FBE097

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

That looks really cool.

Are we thinking Aquilla Heroes for the powers or maybe just any Aquilla figure?

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Very interesting to have Gladiator synergy. I like her helping out any allies instead of just Aquilla ones.

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For all three powers?

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Agreed.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

What if defense power boosts all friendlies who follow Aquilla and rings power cares about friendly classes regardless of general

Or maybe:

Bridge her people: Aquila
Defend the innocent: friendly
Ring her band: barbarians and gladiators

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

I like that.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Life 5, she's bold like with Amazon toughness, weak only compared to the studs she rides with

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Agreed.

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Might make her the most synergistic design ever.

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So like this?
https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...01&oe=6125406C

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

In Energy Rings I would change "attacks" to "targets."

FYI
 

Should be "within 5 spaces".

~Dysole, been very busy to keep more than just an eye on this

Re: FYI
 

I take it you mean, instead of "5 clear spaces" half-way through the text of the power, and not the phrase "5 clear sight spaces" near the beginning of the power.

Yeah
 

"When an opponent's figure within 5 clear sight spaces" is what I meant.

~Dysole, once again reiterating that she has kinda been paying partial attention here.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Ok. You're replacing "in" with "within." That makes sense.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

That sounds like a nice progression of powers.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Looks good.

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As a quick mockup I think it looks good.

Should her name be Princess Ariel - or - Ariel, Princess of [something]

Placeholder personality could be Bold?

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Wiki says where she is a princess of is never revealed.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Princess of Something has a nice ring to it.

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The 80s ... Amirite

Princess Ariel then?

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Ariel, Sorcery Princess

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Energy Field should probably be altogether dropped.
It butts with Thundarr's Sun Sword Deflection

Rings could be debilitating enough and removing that could put her Points down to where we'd want them, perhaps as low as 60 to make an even 300 pt pod

FYI
TB: 110
OM:130
+=: 240

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

I am open to that. Two defensive powers is probably too much.
Maybe replace it with a super niche power, like a bonus against magic users. She was always the answer when facing another mage.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Agreed. I remember her deflecting energy eyebeams from Gemini.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

+1 Attack and Defense when within 7 spaces of an enemy Mage figure.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Not bad! She uses their own magical mojo against them (which is how she adds to her stats even when attacking/defending against a non-Mage figure. Unless you only want her to gain the boost against Mage figures exclusively, in which case you need to reword the power).

We will, of course, have to make up some Mage characters. From the show, I remember Mindoc the Mind Mage and Gemini.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

I imagined her deflecting their powers to effect also their minions, so boost v all if near

She's a Sorceress
Perhaps instead of Mage, we use Sorcerer

+2 Attack/Defense if within 7 clear sight spaces of any enemy Sorcerer who doesn't follow Aquilla.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

I believe "Mage" was the name that the show had for her enemies. Are there any existing Sorcerers in Scape? I know we have Wizards, Battlemages and Archmages, as well as Arachnomancers.

Edit: Upon looking, I see that Kurrok is a Sorcerer.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Sorcerers and Wizards?
What are the elven mages?

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

The Elven magic-users are called Wizards, except for Sonlen, who is an Archmage. Sharwin Wildborn is a Battlemage and Erevan Sunshadow is a Wizard. Pelloth and Estivara are Arachnomancers. Ana Karithon is a Cleric. Kurrok is a Sorcerer. There are no Mages.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Cool. I like Wizard and Sorcerer then for a bonus.

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I'm actually ok with her referencing classes that don't exist yet in scape.

If source uses Mage, then Mage we should use

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

So a power that does nothing?
That is weirdly up my alley.
I guess she should be a Mage then as well?

Looks like both Fandom and Wikipedia describe her as a Sorceresses and the enemy mages as Wizards.

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Heroscape draws lines by naming similar classes differently. Custom designs play with this.

I think she should be Sorceress.

POWER, v1
If Ariel is within 7 clear sight spaces of an opponent's Mage, add 2 to her Attack and Defense values unless she is within 7 clear sight spaces of an opponent's Archmage, then she adds 1 to each.
POWER, v2
Ariel adds 2 to her Attack and Defense values if she is within 7 clear sight spaces of an opponent's Mage, add 1 instead if she's within 7 clear sight spaces of an opponent's Archmage.

This way she's at least stronger against one existing card, but way is written is thematically tied to Mage implied from her own series

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Tabletop Simulator link up for playtesting
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=2563363243

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Can someone confirm the use of Mage instead of Wizard?
Everything I have found uses Wizard for the bad guys.

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I have no sources and am fine with switching to Wizards

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Agreed

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Cool

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Wizards it is!