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In truth, I would undoubtedly be a poor player from a personality perspective. I don't think I have what it takes constitutionally to either build an alliance and then betray my ally for a victory or to build an alliance and be betrayed by my ally for their victory. Both would make me feel awful on a personal level. ~Aldin, preferring more clearly defined allies and opponents |
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It is an emotionally exhausting game, Aldin. And at higher levels, it's more - and not less - draining then you make it sound, with your description of having an ally and one stabs the other for a solo.
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I'm going to say you should take a pass Aldin. Although another thread for crowd commentary would be fun I bet (although maybe there aren't that many in the crowd actually) I think D_S proposed something like that once upon a time for both viewers and eliminated powers.
D_S do you have any overarching opinions on the game you'd like to share as the admin or just waiting until everyone has said their piece first? |
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Thanks for asking, KD!
I did have this question, for one: I am curious why @wriggz did not want to try to defend the position at the end. Has that already been answered somewhere? It's not obvious to me that it was defensible, but there was some play there, I thought. Why not give I and G room to try to hold the line? What good was BRE doing in your hands? It's not like they could ever turn on you, with Austria right there. Also, I want to make sure everyone saw this. Quote:
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Since we are biding our time for the next installment of EGS or wriggz to comment (I call out wriggz b/c he said he would comment. dok, quozl, and Nukatha might be passing on commentary). How did that 7 way draw come about? I am very curious. Also, D_S made the comment that our first two games were over relatively quickly. This one went to 1910 which was the longest so far but not overly longer than the first two if memory serves. What's an average range of game years? |
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I want to honour the other players with a proper EGS, so one is forth coming, but work has been very demanding of late. This partially explains the early surrender. I was willing to go against Austria and was laying the foundations to get an in, but my vacation took me off the grid more then I expected. By the time I was ready, Italy and Germany seemed ready for surrender. I was not prepared to dedicate the energy to convince them to keep going especially with the back log of work waiting for me in the office. So I suppose domestic issues lead to England's surrender. |
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When you get around to writing, Wriggz, I will say that I don't think you answered my question. As I saw it, Italy and Germany approached you about trying to defend. You seemed unwilling to make any accommodation. And yet, you would have had to do very little in order to let it happen. Italy and Germany - Italy especially, I imagine - were perfectly prepared to be the architects of a defensive line. Most importantly, you would have had nothing to fear from them. They could never try to attack you, because as soon as they did, their resources would be too thin to defend themselves from Austria, and they would have given up the solo.* Italy and Germany could have tried to set up a defense, and all you would have had to do is spot-check their analysis to make sure it wasn't dumb and then move your units to where they were supposed to be. Which for many of them was probably nowhere; just provide some support where needed for the I & G units on the front line. Certainly an accommodation such as giving up BRE, so Italy could avoid losing another unit on the front line with Austria, seemed like a small price to pay compared to losing the whole game. So I am curious for your thoughts about that, when you're able. To be fair, I only read a little of the press and I haven't even read all of these EoGs, but that's what I'm curious about. Apologies if it's been addressed elsewhere. |
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As we hit 3 weeks since surrender terms were accepted is it an appropriate time to talk about signups for the next? Assuming DS is still willing of course.
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Sure, my part is easy.
If you want to play again, just say so, and if you've been watching and you're curious to give it a shot, just say so. We'll see if we get 7. |
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I'm still in for another.
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Who else?
1. kevindola 2. Ranior I suspect this next game wouldn't get going until late July at the earliest for reference of anyone interested in playing. @scorpiusx @vegietarian18 @All Your Pie |
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I’ll have to see what my schedule is looking like going forward, but I am tentatively interested in playing next round.
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If you think you might be interested then you should play. In my opinion. We can (and do) tweak the schedule as we go to accommodate scheduling conflicts.
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I'd play again, but having won the last two games, If there are 7 people interested, I would step aside and let others play.
(I still owe everyone a finished EGS, and well I am leaving on vacation for 1 1/2 weeks come this thursday, so my time has been limited getting work projects finished.) |
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I am taking liberties
1. kevindola 2. Ranior 3. All Your Pie 4. Kinseth I do hope some of the EGS do get finished, I have quite a few topics about the game I would like to discuss, but I also don't want to be talking into a vacuum. |
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I was Germany. I don't know if I'll ever get time to do an EGS but feel free to ask me questions.
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You might want to elucidate on that.
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That must have been England. I never paid attention to it.
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, still thinking about my last question or you just missed it? If would like no further questions, I can respect that as well.
@wriggz I have lots of question for you as well, but would like to respect your space and desire to post an EGS if that's still in your plans. I will hold my questions for you until after your EGS. |
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In 1904, I thought we could score big on Italy.
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I thought we communicated pretty well. There was no stab, however. I straight up told him I'd be supporting England into Norway before it happened.
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What moves would you have changed throughout the game(not a specific move, just general moves?) What frustrated you the most in the game? |
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Yep, as soon as the results came out. I told Russia I had made a mistake. Unfortunately, I don't think I ever heard from Russia again.
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Well in the big picture I changed my mind only a few times in terms of who was the biggest threat to defend against: Austria (until ~1904 when England stabbed me) then England/Germany (until ~ 1907 for reasons already detailed) then Austria until the end.
But certainly within the minutiae I changed stories more than that, working with them until England's stab, then working against them, then falsely working with E/G in order to gain the Mid Atlantic and Portugal, and then truthfully working with them to eliminate France and move back against Austria. Then moving against them after the second English stab. Most of it though was in direct response to a stab or clear antagonistic maneuvers. Austria I think would have a much stronger case to complain about my flip-flopping. Unless it's a comment on my attempt to have a split conversation with Germany in 1908 timeframe where we had a 3 way conversation going with England and a 1 on 1 conversation that had very divergent discussion points. I could see where that would be seen as flip-flopping if the separate conversations were confused as a single one. (Which may explain some of Germany's odd press behavior during that time. not sure) |
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My odd press behavior was due to me also making deals with Austria at that time.
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mentioned again he would be interested but depends on start date. Which might be a while before we can nab a couple more.
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I hope so. I'm certainly happy to run another one.
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You guys still going? I'm very interested if you want some fresh blood. haha
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Sorry, I'm out of this one, the last one was so mentally/emotionally demanding. I do love this game (in the way I imagine people love horror movies), and Might return next round.
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@quozl I don't even know if those original signed up 5 are still interested, but I thought I would give it a shot to bump this thread |
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I can run it but don't have time to play it right now.
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I’m really itching to make some new friendships!
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Then why would you play Diplomacy? :p
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Perhaps I did something wrong, but I gained a friend playing Diplomacy.
This past summer I attended the World Boardgaming Championships and wound up in a game of Diplomacy. One of the other players in my game it turned out was also from Madison WI. We talked a bit and he started coming to my game group over the past several months and we're now friends. As for trying to get this little group back together, sadly I'm not really ready to play again right now. |
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Well, I'm available whenever.
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I was hoping the :P would make my post read in jest.
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5 months since you said no, interested again?
@Decesare You still around and willing to play? @Nukatha and you? Otherwise I know we have 1) Kinseth 2) Ranior 3) AYP 4) kevindola 5) scorpiusx vegie18 is probably a no at this time due to time constraints and no reason not to include others who have played or expressed interest in this thread @dok @MegaSilver @Zetsubo @marrowick @Spidey'tilIDie |
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I'm available to run it again. :)
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