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Scapemage April 19th, 2010 04:16 AM

C3G Playtesting Sign-Ups Seeking New Testers!
 
Welcome to the C3G Playtesting Thread!

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Highest Priority Playtesting Unit: Six-Gun Gorilla

What is this thread for?

Every C3G unit is designed to be well-balanced within our game. In order to do that, we playtest every unit multiple times to ensure their point cost and powers are in check. We need your help to playtest our units and make sure they are just as fun an balanced as we envision them.

In this thread, you will find a list of the units currently available for playtesting, as well as resources to make playtesting as easy as possible.


How do I playtest?

Below in the next post, you will find a list of units currently available for playtesting. Each unit will have a number of "Open" slots (each of which can be taken up by one playtester), and a link to the Lead Designer of that unit. If you would like to sign up to test a unit, simply post in this thread indicating which unit you are signing up for. Then, send a Private Message to the Lead Designer asking for the latest version of the design. You can only be signed up for one unit at a time.

Once you've signed up, simply play two complete games of C3G Heroscape using the unit. As you go, fill out the Public Playtesting Form with details about the games and your thoughts on the unit. If you have any questions about the form, check out our Playtesting FAQ. When you finish, send the Lead Designer a Private Message with the completed form, and post back here mentioning that you've finished. Playtest complete!


Do I get any rewards for playtesting?

Yes! C3G operates on a Reward Point system, explained in the Ally and Fan Reward Thread. When you sign-up for a playtest, it is your responsibility to subtract one point from your points total in the Rewards Thread. When you complete a playtest, you can give yourself three points, effectively netting 2 points per test.

You can spend your points to officially design units for C3G, among other rewards. Check out the C3G Reward Shop for more information.

Scapemage April 19th, 2010 05:13 AM

Available Units
 
Units Available for Playtesting
Units are listed top to bottom from oldest to newest. If you are unsure which unit you would like to test, consider testing the oldest unit.

Six-Gun Gorilla (L0B5T3R)
- Yodaking
- Lord Pyre
- MrNobody

Crossbones (MrNobody)
- Arch-vile
- Ronin
- Splashdown

Livewire (Amanda Mckee) (LordVenoc)
- Lord Pyre
- Arch-vile
- Open

Venom (Mac Gargan) (MrNobody)
- Arch-vile
- Ronin
- Open

Abra Kadabra (Arch-vile)
- Open
- Open
- Open

Trigon (IAmBatman)
- Open
- Open
- Open


Priority Tests: If a design has a double red exclamation mark (!!) before its name, it is a Priority design (and needs to be completed as soon as possible) or Reevaluation test. Testing a Priority unit grants you 1 additional Reward Point, for a total of 4 points instead of 3.

Suspended Units: Occasionally, the C3G Heroes will temporarily suspend a unit while its power level is being reevaluated. Suspended units should not be used in playtests unless specifically requested by a Hero.

The following units are currently Suspended from testing or are currently being reevaluated:

Punisher

If you request a Playtest, post your request here, and please PM the Lead Designer requesting the design.

A3n; Arch-vile; Arkham; IAmBatman; japes; johnny139; Karat;
L0B5T3R
Lazy Orang; Lob5t3r; Lord Pyre; LordVenoc; MrNobody; quozl; Ronin; Scapemage; Soundwarp SG-1; Spidey'tilidie; tcglkn; Tornado; Yodaking

Hahma April 19th, 2010 10:17 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Old OP:
Spoiler Alert!

SirGalahad April 19th, 2010 11:03 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 1067941)
I would like to sign up for a playtest for Poison Ivy.

Attention Readers: So I will now click on the link to Poison Ivy, and it will take me to her thread, where I can contact the Lead Designer, and ask for the most recent sheet to playtest. In the future, those Design threads will be set to private, but we will have links here to contact the Lead Designer by PM so that you can request the current version to playtest.

PM sent

Do we have to request to playtest our own design? :lol:

Velenne April 19th, 2010 11:56 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I'll try out Colossus.

Master Tang April 19th, 2010 01:49 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I would like to sign up for a playtest for Colossus.

Master Tang April 19th, 2010 01:55 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 1067941)
Attention Readers: So I will now click on the link to Poison Ivy, and it will take me to her thread, where I can contact the Lead Designer, and ask for the most recent sheet to playtest. In the future, those Design threads will be set to private, but we will have links here to contact the Lead Designer by PM so that you can request the current version to playtest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 1067930)
If you request a Playtest, post your request here, and please wait for a response from the Lead Designer. Thanks.

Sorry I am a bit confused. Do I request to playtest here and just way for a response from the Lead Designer? Or do I request to playtest here and also send a PM to the Lead Designer requesting to playtest?

Griffin April 19th, 2010 05:54 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Does It Pass? -
How Many Points? -
Brief Discription -

Map -
Units -

The Fight -

Who Won? -

NecroBlade April 19th, 2010 06:42 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I, too, will be playtesting Colossus. *PMs self*

IAmBatman April 19th, 2010 07:07 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Just to clarify, here's the process:

1) Post here signing up for an available playtest, as I'm about to:

Sign me up for Poison Ivy, please!

2) The Lead Designer of the design you signed up for will then pm you the latest card (Sir Galahad in this case). However, if it's a public design thread, this is unnecessary and doesn't need to happen (so don't worry about it, Sir G). If it's a future, private design thread, you'll have no other way of seeing what to playtest, though.

3) After you're done with the playtest, you need to get it back to the Lead Designer. If the thread is public, you can just post it in the thread. If the thread is private, you'll need to use a pm or email to the lead designer. :-)

IAmBatman April 19th, 2010 07:07 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirGalahad (Post 1068044)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 1067941)
I would like to sign up for a playtest for Poison Ivy.

Attention Readers: So I will now click on the link to Poison Ivy, and it will take me to her thread, where I can contact the Lead Designer, and ask for the most recent sheet to playtest. In the future, those Design threads will be set to private, but we will have links here to contact the Lead Designer by PM so that you can request the current version to playtest.

PM sent

Do we have to request to playtest our own design? :lol:

Not request - but sign up, so we know your plans and can update the first post. :-)

Edit: First post updated.

GreyOwl April 19th, 2010 07:37 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman (Post 1068431)
Just to clarify, here's the process:

1) Post here signing up for an available playtest, as I'm about to:

Sign me up for Poison Ivy, please!

2) The Lead Designer of the design you signed up for will then pm you the latest card (Sir Galahad in this case). However, if it's a public design thread, this is unnecessary and doesn't need to happen (so don't worry about it, Sir G). If it's a future, private design thread, you'll have no other way of seeing what to playtest, though.

3) After you're done with the playtest, you need to get it back to the Lead Designer. If the thread is public, you can just post it in the thread. If the thread is private, you'll need to use a pm or email to the lead designer. :-)


This brings to mind something that may be missing from our rules. If all of our selections and designs are done in private, how would an ally or sidekick know what they can playtest? It seems like there needs to be a public list of "Designs In Progress" (just the name of the figure, no more).

IAmBatman April 19th, 2010 07:50 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Yep - and I think that's what we'll continue to update as new tests are needed. We don't have to post them as soon as we start on the design, just when we are ready for playtests.

Griffin April 19th, 2010 08:17 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
The list on the front page will be updated as needed, and the links in the future will be to the Lead Designer's profile page so that anyone can see who the LD is and how to contact them.

Spidey'tilIDie April 19th, 2010 08:25 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I think secrecy is kinda paramount, so I was wondering if leaking info about cards during playtesting phase should be grounds for dismissal from participation in C3G. Otherwise, what is to keep an Ally from posting any playtestable designs in their own thread as customs or as "leaked" cards (other than integrity.)

Griffin April 19th, 2010 08:31 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie (Post 1068554)
I think secrecy is kinda paramount, so I was wondering if leaking info about cards during playtesting phase should be grounds for dismissal from participation in C3G. Otherwise, what is to keep an Ally from posting any playtestable designs in their own thread as customs or as "leaked" cards (other than integrity.)

I think we can just deal with that if we ever have to. I trust our guys though to do the right thing. Besides, I don't think anyone wants to be "that guy".

GreyOwl April 19th, 2010 08:34 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I'm fine with trusting them, but there should also be consequences for violating that trust.

IAmBatman April 19th, 2010 09:30 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I think that if someone does something that crappy, we'll likely propose and vote that their Ally/Sidekick status be revoked pretty quickly. I think if you did something like that it'd be like renting a big thirty foot billboard to say "Screw you, C3G! I want out."
Well, they'd be getting out for sure.

Griffin April 19th, 2010 09:37 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman (Post 1068609)
I think that if someone does something that crappy, we'll likely propose and vote that their Ally/Sidekick status be revoked pretty quickly. I think if you did something like that it'd be like renting a big thirty foot billboard to say "Screw you, C3G! I want out."
Well, they'd be getting out for sure.

Yeah, it is sorta like posting this smiley
Spoiler Alert!

GreyOwl April 19th, 2010 09:42 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I guess what I'm saying is, we all know that people shouldn't do that, but do the rules actually state our expectation?

Griffin April 19th, 2010 09:53 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyOwl (Post 1068627)
I guess what I'm saying is, we all know that people shouldn't do that, but do the rules actually state our expectation?

They don't, but I am personally against adding amendment after amendment to our Rules. I think if it were to happen, we should just address it then, but I don't think that it will.

IAmBatman April 19th, 2010 09:55 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
It doesn't need to any more than it needs to have an amendment that says "don't be a jerk." If people don't realize that automatically, I don't think they're going to work well with others. :-P Griff excluded, lol.

GreyOwl April 19th, 2010 09:56 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I think some people could argue against the fact that they got kicked out for breaking a rule that's not stated anywhere (that wouldn't stop them from being kicked out, but it might create bad PR). What's the harm in including one line somewhere in our rules that says "All heroes, sidekicks, and allies are expected to keep unreleased designs private within C3G, or even within a small subgroup of C3G depending on the status and type of design." That last part is to prevent ERB members from sharing designs with each other.

IAmBatman April 19th, 2010 09:59 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Either way. :reapershrug: I'm admittedly not always the best at PR due to not caring what idiots think. :-P (That wasn't calling anyone in particular an idiot, except a hypothetical person who would raise cane if we kicked someone out for sharing private designs with others).

Griffin April 19th, 2010 10:40 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I would never vote to kick someone out for a one time screw-up. A warning, PM discussion, public rebuke, sure... but not an immediate dismissal without notice. I don't think any of us would do that.

Spidey'tilIDie April 19th, 2010 11:09 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I don't know. If we PM'ed an Ally a design to playtest Elongated Man and then days later an extremely similarly worded, costed Mr. Fantastic showed up on their own custom thread, I'd think that was grounds for immediate removal. I think the repurcussions should depend on the offense.

I have to agree with Greyowl that a single line addition would not be a bad thing. Especially when it comes to the ERB. We really hold nothing over them to keep them from leaking things though.

Griffin April 19th, 2010 11:13 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I just went ahead and updated to make us all happy. Check out the last two line.


Quote:

  • PLAYTESTING PHASE
Check out the Playtesting FAQs! Once C3G Design Threads have been moved to the playtesting phase, they will be posted in the public Playtest Sign-up Thread. Any Hero, Sidekick, or Ally can sign-up for one playtest at a time, and the Lead Designer will PM that member the current form of the design. The Playtester must return any completed Playtest Sheet to the Lead Designer, who will post it in the appropriate Private Design Thread. The Playtester must not share the Design with anyone other than the Lead Designer, and failure to comply can/will be grounds for dismissal from the C3G project.

Griffin April 19th, 2010 11:41 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
One additional test for Doomsday has been requested by the LD (WhiteStuff).

Getcha points on, getcha points on. Getcha, getcha, getcha, getcha, getcha, getcha points on. :D

GreyOwl April 19th, 2010 11:59 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie (Post 1068741)
I don't know. If we PM'ed an Ally a design to playtest Elongated Man and then days later an extremely similarly worded, costed Mr. Fantastic showed up on their own custom thread, I'd think that was grounds for immediate removal. I think the repurcussions should depend on the offense.

In that situation, I would probably support immediate removal as well, as that wouldn't seem like an accident, but something intentional.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 1068746)
I just went ahead and updated to make us all happy. Check out the last two line.



Quote:

  • PLAYTESTING PHASE
Check out the Playtesting FAQs! Once C3G Design Threads have been moved to the playtesting phase, they will be posted in the public Playtest Sign-up Thread. Any Hero, Sidekick, or Ally can sign-up for one playtest at a time, and the Lead Designer will PM that member the current form of the design. The Playtester must return any completed Playtest Sheet to the Lead Designer, who will post it in the appropriate Private Design Thread. The Playtester must not share the Design with anyone other than the Lead Designer, and failure to comply can/will be grounds for dismissal from the C3G project.

That looks good! Can we add it to the ERB section, too?

Griffin April 20th, 2010 12:03 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
What is the ERB section? Now I know I am getting close to 30...

GreyOwl April 20th, 2010 12:05 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
ERB = Executive Review Board :p

Griffin April 20th, 2010 12:07 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
:duh: Good call. :up: I am on it.

Griffin April 20th, 2010 12:09 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Done.

mrcrimson April 20th, 2010 03:32 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
19 POINTS
Spoiler Alert!

IAmBatman April 20th, 2010 03:42 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
He's all yours, McCrimson!

tcglkn April 23rd, 2010 10:51 AM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Just reading through this thread, why are the design threads going to be made private? I enjoy reading through the process.

Griffin April 23rd, 2010 04:03 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tcglkn (Post 1072243)
Just reading through this thread, why are the design threads going to be made private? I enjoy reading through the process.

It will make it easier for those of us who are designing to actually design, instead of scan through countless pages of discussion and personal opinions.

tcglkn April 23rd, 2010 04:17 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Griffin (Post 1072458)
Quote:

Originally Posted by tcglkn (Post 1072243)
Just reading through this thread, why are the design threads going to be made private? I enjoy reading through the process.

It will make it easier for those of us who are designing to actually design, instead of scan through countless pages of discussion and personal opinions.

Well thats no fun... :shock:

EternalThanos86 April 23rd, 2010 04:41 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Well, whoever said the C3G was fun? Especially back when these guys were doing ALL OF THE WORK? They deserve to work within the peace and quiet of a private forum while still utilizing those willing playtesters.

Hahma April 23rd, 2010 04:49 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Thanks for the support ET86:thumbsup:

We can't make everyone happy. There were issues when everything was public and now I'm sure there will be those that don't like that it's private, but in the end, this is what had to be done. The C3G is ever evolving and trying to be the best that it can be and put out the best product possible. There are more ways than ever now for others to participate in some form or another, but some things need to be separate. :D

Griffin April 23rd, 2010 05:24 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hahma (Post 1072525)
We can't make everyone happy.

And that is really the meat of the issue. Once we realized this, and then realized that the majority of our Heroes (designers) weren't happy, that meant that it was time for a change. After all, if our designers aren't happy and they leave, then no one has fun because we won't have any more units to play with.

Spidey'tilIDie April 23rd, 2010 05:32 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
vBulletin Message
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Hahma again.

Seriously, the only thing I dislike about this site, the only thing, is the repping system. After a week, whether I've repped anyone or not, I should be able to rep Hahma again. :grrrr:

GreyOwl April 23rd, 2010 06:37 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Just go rep some random people to build it up again. ;) (just kidding....)

Griffin April 23rd, 2010 08:56 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyOwl (Post 1072648)
Just go rep some random people to build it up again. ;) (just kidding....)

:lol: I know I was guilty of that in the past before we had such a huge members list. :oops:

Griffin April 23rd, 2010 09:05 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I took Necro's name off of the list since he did the preliminary test for him. I am requesting that last test for Colossus. so I will now click the link on the front page, and then send the Lead Designer (Necro) a PM requesting the info on Colossus for Playtesting. Sure I could just get that info off of the thread, but I am following protocol since soon we will be in our new privatized system, and I am familiarizing myself with the new ways. :D

tcglkn April 23rd, 2010 11:02 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Just so its clear, I wasn't necessarily mad that y'all are privatizing this system, I was just wondering your motives. I do enjoy looking in from time to time and just seeing how its going. Is there any way to make a thread that anyone can view but only "invited" or chosen people can post in?

NecroBlade April 23rd, 2010 11:22 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
I'd like to do one of the Flash army tests.

Griffin April 23rd, 2010 11:23 PM

Re: Playtesting Sign-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tcglkn (Post 1072913)
Just so its clear, I wasn't necessarily mad that y'all are privatizing this system, I was just wondering your motives. I do enjoy looking in from time to time and just seeing how its going. Is there any way to make a thread that anyone can view but only "invited" or chosen people can post in?

Nah, it is what it is.


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