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Lamaclown January 11th, 2011 08:15 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Balantai (Post 1311660)
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Originally Posted by Taeblewalker (Post 1311656)
At the end of Unplugged, you should add "on the battlefield."

Do you still control figures that have been destroyed?

I think official language only ever says "you control" without the qualifier.

killercactus January 11th, 2011 08:22 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Balantai (Post 1311660)
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Originally Posted by Taeblewalker (Post 1311656)
At the end of Unplugged, you should add "on the battlefield."

Do you still control figures that have been destroyed?

No, you don't. I don't think we need "on the battlefield", personally.

Also guys, Unplugged isn't really remotely similar to Frenzy. You can only roll for Unplugged once per turn, first of all. Secondly, you're taking a turn with a different figure than the one you placed an order marker on. Lastly, IT PREVENTS YOU FROM TAKING TURNS WITH SMITH WHEN YOU MIGHT WANT TO.

If you ask me, 200 is very expensive for him. We're talking about a melee unique squad with 3 defense from melee that you can only take turns with if you get lucky. Yeah, those are extra turns, but the fact remains that you can't move Smith unless you roll a 14 or higher, assuming they're all alive. Stealth Dodge is great and all, but if Smith gets engaged, he's in a lot of trouble, and I think it's going to be tough to keep that from happening. He'll need a strong screen, that's for sure.

About the Ninja comparison, here's some other things:

Smith only gets to disengage when he's moving with Mastering the Matrix, and he can't move through all figures.

Smith's defensive ability only works against non-adjacent attacks (though it does work against Specials, which is big).

You can't place OM's on Smith unless he's the only figure left. This is huge IMO, and probably offsets the 4th figure in the squad.

I feel like he's a 150 Point unit.

Taeblewalker January 11th, 2011 10:55 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I retract my addition. I also agree that 200 is too much.

Balantai January 11th, 2011 11:14 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
This is going to be a tricky unit to cost. Without proper playtesting, it's going to be very hard to guess since he's such a unique unit. Hopefully we can revive the playtesting thread and get this guy properly tested. I think 150 might be a bit too low for a starting point. How do you guys feel about 170?

Taeblewalker January 11th, 2011 11:32 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Any number is fine to start. It is a very unique type of unit, and will need extra playtesting.

Balantai January 11th, 2011 11:46 AM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Well here's my :thumbsup:. I like him right where he's at and I'm ready to move on to our next figure. Let's get 3 more thumbs and we'll move on.

killercactus January 11th, 2011 12:17 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
If we're just haggling over price, I'd give him a :thumbsup:

Lamaclown January 11th, 2011 12:44 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
And here is another...
:thumbsup:

mac122 January 11th, 2011 12:53 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
:thumbsup:
Not completely sold on Agent Smith, but I think that's because he is so different. Definitely worth a thumb to send him to playtesting.

Balantai January 11th, 2011 01:09 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
That's a quick 4 thumbs for PK's first HoF custom. Contgrats, PK. Let's move on the Taeblewalker's pick. Go ahead and post your pick using the format on the first page, Taeblewalker.

killercactus January 11th, 2011 01:14 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Balantai (Post 1311848)
That's a quick 4 thumbs for PK's first HoF custom. Contgrats, PK. Let's move on the Taeblewalker's pick. Go ahead and post your pick using the format on the first page, Taeblewalker.

I just wanted to point out that I'm not an "active designer" as of yet, though I'd like to be. I don't know if you might want another vote to count for mine...

Balantai January 11th, 2011 01:16 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
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Originally Posted by killercactus (Post 1311853)
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Originally Posted by Balantai (Post 1311848)
That's a quick 4 thumbs for PK's first HoF custom. Contgrats, PK. Let's move on the Taeblewalker's pick. Go ahead and post your pick using the format on the first page, Taeblewalker.

I just wanted to point out that I'm not an "active designer" as of yet, though I'd like to be. I don't know if you might want another vote to count for mine...

You're officially an active designer. You can design your first card after Taeblewalker. 8)


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