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quozl March 11th, 2019 03:31 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles Discussion Thread (Public Testing)
 
I like it (and you still don't need spaces inside the vehicle).

However, in your point #1, I'll remind you that Huge objects can be thrown.

IAmBatman March 11th, 2019 03:34 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles Discussion Thread (Public Testing)
 
Yes, true, but less often at least. Like Magneto (II) can do it, but not Magneto (I) for instance. So Huge at least restricts it.

Edit: And the TARDIS should be Huge anyway, because Large figures should be able to Occupy it.

IAmBatman March 11th, 2019 03:35 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles Discussion Thread (Public Testing)
 
I'll wait for some more weigh ins, but if we all end up feeling good about things after today, I'll try to make some edits, cut out irrelevant parts, and type up an Enclosed Structure version tomorrow/later this week/once enough folks have chimed in.

IAmBatman March 12th, 2019 04:59 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles Discussion Thread (Public Testing)
 
I propose we make the changes outlined below to the Vehicle Destructible Object rules in order to create rules for Vehicle Destructible Objects you can draft and occupy with figures from more than one player that we can return to public testing along with the Sports Car VDO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IAmBatman (Post 2262546)
Taking another shot at this with the idea that figures are occupying both the spaces the vehicle occupies and the spaces on the vehicle card. Please read it over carefully and let me know if there's anything I'm missing!

I added in two things you might not notice at first:

1. I only made figures inside a vehicle adjacent/engaged if enemies if the vehicle is Large or smaller. I figured with Huge vehicles we would have more extensive maps so engagement would not be a given. I do worry about "bigger on the inside" vehicles like the TARDIS for that, but maybe that should be distinguished as Huge anyway, because it's not like Magneto should really be throwing it around.

2. Since only the Player whose figure is occupying the Driver space now controls the Vehicle, I changed the rules for Exiting the Vehicle to be at the cost of an unblockable die. I figured if you're not driving they're not slowing down or parking for you, so you're basically jumping out of a moving Vehicle at your own risk. I did restrict the penalty to figures without Super Strength, though, since that seems thematic.

Anyway, newest version below!

Spoiler Alert!


Tornado March 12th, 2019 06:54 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles - VOTE for return to Playtesting
 
Pretty sweet.
Can you throw a figure into a vehicle?
Is so, Magneto could throw a code in a car, then it's mutant driver takes off and kicks the foe out, getting a free swipe. Not bad for the car but could be vicious foe the Mole Machine, 3 swipes.
I am reading that right? The driver can kick out any passengers?

Do we want to lower the Defense on the Sports Car?

Ronin March 12th, 2019 08:12 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles - VOTE for return to Playtesting
 
I do think that bit should be clarified (in Exiting Vehicles) - not clear whether or not you're meant to be able to remove an opponent's figure from a vehicle you control.

yea to retesting once that's sorted out, though.

Not worried about the Sports Car's defense when you can shoot someone through the window.

Tornado March 12th, 2019 08:25 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles - VOTE for return to Playtesting
 
No, but it will affect the cost of the Car which could stand be lower.

IAmBatman March 12th, 2019 08:47 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles - VOTE for return to Playtesting
 
The intent is only to be able to control the exit of figures you control.

The mechanics for Entering a car are laid out in the rules and I don't believe they allow for a figure to be moved into a car by throwing/etc., but they actually have to do their own movement. That's the way I intended it, at least.

I'll look at the text and review the language for both things in a minute here.

IAmBatman March 12th, 2019 08:53 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles - VOTE for return to Playtesting
 
Should be fixed now.

For the "throw into a vehicle" bit, the text notes that you have to end your movement on an adjacent space to Enter. I don't think being thrown qualifies as the figure's movement.

Tornado March 12th, 2019 09:19 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles - VOTE for return to Playtesting
 
I thought it was the same. You can be thrown into an Engagement Strike, correct?

quozl March 12th, 2019 09:50 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles - VOTE for return to Playtesting
 
Just modify it to "movement during its turn".

IAmBatman March 12th, 2019 10:24 PM

Re: Draftable Vehicles - VOTE for return to Playtesting
 
The way I read it, "ending its movement" =/= "moves."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engagement Strike
If an opponent's small or medium figure moves adjacent to Mystique, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 13 or higher, the opponent's figure receives one wound. Figures may be targeted only as they move into engagement with Mystique.



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