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Sorry to nitpick, but could you indent the bullet points?
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I always preferred the darker Valkrill cards myself. I'll give Dexter a :thumbsup:
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Code Of Harry ... attacking Utgar figures..
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Thanks for pointing that out Confred...corrected in the post above :D
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The next designer according to the new list, is JC McMinis. |
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Awesome, just got done laminating my Dexter and Capn Jack cards.
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Ok seeing as it is my turn and my last submission was for one of my daughters, I now give you a submission for one of my sons. I have not had a chance tofind the appropriate miniature for him, but will look later tonight.
Percy Jackson Perseus "Percy" Jackson is the title character and narrator of Rick Riordan's Percy Jackson & the Olympians series. http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...psnpgnnimt.png I already have a rough card drafted out, but want to hear any suggestions you might have before I put up my first draft. |
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I imagine a Water Strength power like the Water Elemental would be appropriate. Doesn't he have the shoes of Hermes, giving him the flying power? And we might want to give him a special attack based on water. There's also the possibility of giving him Zeus' lightning bolt, which could be a glyph.
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He was loaned the shoes of Hermes but did not keep them.
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I am only barely familiar with the character. Can you give me a basic synopsis of powers?
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Water regeneration, Also like Teablewalker's suggestion of water elemental, summoned or bonding. He does have some kind of sword right, and I'm not sure about lightning bolt because he is the son of posieden. He is the lightning thief though right. Its been awhile since I seen the show. Very cool idea. props.
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Give us some brainstorming, some thinking out loud Some description of the character |
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Ok I will post my first draft and you guys can help me adjust/brainstorm from there.
Percy Jackson Aquilla Demigod U. Hero Warrior Valiant Son of Posiedon If Percy is on a water space, he rolls 2 additional attack dice, cannot take an automatic wound from any ability on any Army Card or Glyph, and when rolling defense dice 1 shield will block all damage. Percy Jackson does not have to stop his movement when entering water. Water Mastery If Percy Jackson is within 3 spaces of a water space you may add 3 to his range, Any friendly elemental who follows Aquilla within 3 spaces of Percy count as a water space. Water Healing After taking a turn with Percy Jackson, if he is on a water space, you may remove a wound marker from this Army Card or the Army Card of any friendly figure adjacent to Percy. Life 4 Move 5 Range 1 Attack 4 Defense 4 |
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Ok, some thoughts on Percy Jackson from a long time fan.
1. The first thing that needs to be determined is when in Percy's demigod career is this? His powers significantly increase as he gets older, and that is important to determine what he can and should actually do. i.e. Earlier in his career he relied more on swordsmanship because he didn't have much water power, but as I said before, his power dramatically increase with age along with his sword skill. 2. Percy would fight for Jandar. No question. 3. His personality should be Tricky. 4. The healing thing Is basically only in the movies, and I believe he only does it to himself 5. while I'm talking about the movies, this Percy Jackson should be based on the books. He's more powerful in the books, and the first movie was just awful. The second wasn't bad, but the biggest problem over all is that it always seems like the series could end right after each movie. 6. I really have no idea what that first power is supposed to be. :confused: |
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The Son of Posiedon ability is quite powerful. I like the Water healing ability, I think it captures the theme well. What do you think about Water Regeneration as the title.
With the Son of Posiedon ability, I like the not stopping in water move, The one shield block is a bit powerful with him being able to heal. As far as not taking any automatic wounds on water, I think he should be able to, but maybe subtract from the attacking figures 20 die roll. Not sure yet on the attack die bonus, see how much we want this guy to be worth pointwise. I also like the water elemental thing. Percy jackson is not a powerhouse, he gets hurt fairly often, but does heal on water, and can manipulate water being the son of Posiedon. |
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Goodness. I didn't realize the child was that powerful. (I know only minimal of the character)
He's like Marvelscape powerful. I'm on my phone now. I'll have my proper input in a day or so |
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Water Regeneration- after taking a turn with Percy Jackson, if he is on a water space, you may remove a wound marker from this Army Card. Or
Water Regeneration- after taking a turn with Percy Jackson, if he is on a water space, roll the 20 sided die. If you roll a 1-4 nothing happens, If you roll a 5-11 remove 1 wound. If you roll a 12-19 remove 2 wounds. If you roll a 20 or higher remove all wounds. Percy Jackson usually only heals himself in the water if I'm not mistaken. Son of Posiedon If Percy is on a water space, he rolls 1 additional attack and 1 additional defense die. When a figure targets him with a 20 sided die roll, he may add or subtract 5 from their die roll. Percy Jackson does not have to stop his movement when entering water. Something like that, maybe said a little better. That way he's not superman on water. You could always give him some kind of range with a Lightning bolt treasure glyph . Zeus's Lightning Bolt. Anyway my two cents. |
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Edit: Also he's not a child, he's about 17 now. |
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Those are the aspects (minus the girlfriend bit) that a good Percy Jackson design should highlight. Also if the healing is a must have for you, then you should go with the first one
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Percy Jackson Aquilla Demigod U. Hero Warrior Valiant Son of Posiedon If Percy is on a water space, he rolls 2 additional attack dice and when rolling defense dice 1 shield will block all damage. Percy Jackson does not have to stop his movement when entering water. Hydokenisis If Percy Jackson is within 3 spaces of a water space you may add 3 to his range, Any friendly elemental who follows Aquilla within 3 spaces of Percy count as a water space. Water Healing After taking a turn with Percy Jackson, if he is on a water space, you may remove a wound marker from this Army Card. Life 4 Move 5 Range 1 Attack 4 Defense 4[/QUOTE] |
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The thing is, Percy Jackson is a leader AND a fighter. He should be able to charge into battle with the demigods by his side ready to kick butt, and He should be a force of nature when close to water. Able to batter his opponents like waves on a rock, with literal waves and storms. |
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Instead of an elemental who follows Aquilla, it should probably just say Water Elemental. What happens if someone creates a non-water elemental who follows Aquilla?
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From the Half Blood wiki (note: Spoilers)
Spoiler Alert!
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On the magical items, the only ones that ever appear more than once are the sword and shield.
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laughing matter makes some very valid points, but much like when making superheroes 'Scape, we are limited to certaib degree. I was trying to reflect Percy's fighting skill in his stats.
Here is another go at it Percy Jackson Jandar Demigod U. Hero Warrior Tricky Son of Posiedon If Percy Jackson is within 3 spaces of a water space add 1 to his attack and defense. If Percy is on a water space add 2 to his attack and defense. Percy does not have to stop his movement when entering water. This will reflect Percy's increased strength both near and the in the water. Hydokenisis Special Attack Range 2+Special. Attack 2+Special. If Percy Jackson is with 3 spaces of a water space add 2 to the range and attack of Hydrokenisis Special Attack. Here we can reflect Percy's ability to both create, control and harden water. Tactitian All friendly figures that are adjacent to Percy Jackson add one to their attack and defense. Here we could reflect his leadership abilities...however I would prefer to use... Water Healing After taking a turn with Percy Jackson, if he is on a water space, you may remove a wound marker from this Army Card. Unless Percy becomes the first HoF unit to have 4 abilities. Life 6 Move 5 Range 1 Attack 5 Defense 5 Did some increases here to further reflect his battle prowess and endurance Also a side note Dexter has been added to the display thread. Also what do you think of this for Percy's figure it will obviously need a repaint. http://shop.strikezoneonline.com/Ite...F67479289.html |
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On water he has 7 attack and 7 defense on water, 6 life, gets to regenerate. This guy is never going to die. Unless he's in a desert. Just an observation.
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Is he really a 5/5 without water? Tactician feels out of place. Is he really a 6 life monstrosity? Those base stats alone are Eltahale level. 4 attacks of 3 does enough damage to slowly win a war of attrition. As a single attacking figure I can't be super worried about him but I do wonder how beefy he really is. At that current level the lowest I'd be comfortable is 160.
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As he sits now, he's too tied to water and won't be usable on a map without it. How about some powers that aren't water specific such as the tactician angle?
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That said, if we do want to go with something not water based I prefer a multi attacking option like this GREEK TRAINING If Percy Jackson kills an opponent's figure with a normal attack, he may attack with his normal attack one additional time. and think it might be a better fit than Tactician. If so we could probably combine Son of Poseidon into one ability. SON OF POSEIDON If Percy Jackson is within 3 spaces of a water space add 1 to his attack and defense. If Percy is on a water space add 2 to his attack and defense. Percy does not have to stop his movement when entering water. After taking a turn with Percy Jackson, if he is on a water space, you may remove a wound marker from this Army Card. And go with the Hydrokinesis SA to fill out the card. I think I'd be fine keeping him at a 5/5 if he had 4 or 5 life and then we can probably put him at 160. ~Dysole, hydrologically |
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I just saw this ability in Mera's thread in C3G and thought it could serve as inspiration for the special attack.
AQUAKINESIS After moving and instead of attacking with Mera, if she is within 2 spaces of a water space, you may choose up to 4 figures within 4 spaces of Mera. One at a time, roll the 20-sided die once for each chosen figure. If you roll 14 or higher, you may either inflict 1 unblockable wound on that chosen figure, or place that chosen figure on any empty space within 4 spaces of its original placement. Figures moved by Aquakinesis do not take any leaving engagement attacks. |
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Range 2+Special. Attack 2+Special. When Percy Jackson is within 3 spaces of a water space, add 2 to the range and attack of Hydrokinesis Special Attack. If a small or medium figure receives one or more wounds from Hydrokinesis Special Attack but is not destroyed, roll the 20 sided die. On a roll of 14 or higher, place that figure on an empty space within 2 spaces of its' original placement. Figures moved by Hydrokinesis Special Attack do not take any leaving engagement attacks. It's a bit wordy and dropping the boosts could cut it down but I do hesitate about giving him figure movement as that is super powerful (see Shurrak on lava) and doesn't feel super thematic for him to be knocking people into lava. Then again, this is going off of my very limited knowledge so someone else will have to tell me if I'm off base here. ~Dysole, brainstorming |
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I'm not very familiar with Percy, I saw both the movies mainly because my gf is a huge fan, so I'm not sure if this idea fits in that well but could we reuse the Magical Equipment power from the Harry Potter card? I know Percy has some magical items he uses, and I apologize if this was brought up earlier, I only have time to leave this comment, I'll read the past couple pages later.
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Alot of good ideas here, keep them coming. I am getting ready for work at the moment and will review any new posts and post a new draft in the a.m.
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I'm at work, but great quote of the wiki. That will go a long way for me in visualizing this guy.
And yes he does sound very much the 7/7 in water. He single handedly takes on Gods and Titans or multiple Demigods attacking him at the same time. He is a match for superheroes. I'm fine with a meaty 300 point or even greater figure With that said, design lead gets to choose which version and if Percy is weak in the movies, then be it |
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Thus I think the big three special powers should be ADHD: punishes the opponent for rolling blanks in combat Dyslexia: before attacking, swap any two order markers controlled by the same player, you may then look at those markers (tricky and commanding) Son Of Poseidon: water power |
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I lke the modification to Hydrokenisis and the Greek Training Idea how about this though
Percy Jackson Jandar Demigod U. Hero Warrior Tricky SON OF POSEIDON If Percy Jackson is within 3 spaces of a water space add 1 to his attack and defense. If Percy is on a water space add 2 to his attack and defense. Percy does not have to stop his movement when entering water.After taking a turn with Percy Jackson, if he is on a water space, you may remove a wound marker from this Army Card. HYDROKINESIS SPECIAL ATTACK Range 2+Special. Attack 2+Special. When Percy Jackson is within 3 spaces of a water space, add 2 to the range and attack of Hydrokinesis Special Attack. If a small or medium figure receives one or more wounds from Hydrokinesis Special Attack but is not destroyed, roll the 20 sided die. On a roll of 14 or higher, place that figure on an empty space within 2 spaces of its' original placement. Figures moved by Hydrokinesis Special Attack do not take any leaving engagement attacks. GREEK TRAINING If Percy Jackson destroy's an opponents figure with a normal attack, he may attack one additional time. Life 6 Move 5 Range 1 Attack 5 Defense 5 Points 175 Also what do you think of this for Percy's figure it will obviously need a repaint. http://shop.strikezoneonline.com/Ite...F67479289.html[/QUOTE] |
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I think the figure is great. I like his pose and after a recolor, it'll look spot on.
After thought, ADHD and DYSLEXIA are so important to the heart of the character that they should be included. |
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Secondly, I have no idea how to thematically represent him being able to read ancient divine Greek and Latin. So, while it might make sense to include that I think it might be more trouble than it's worth. ~Dysole, who can pretty easily come up with ways to represent ADHD but they feel more like divine supersenses than ADHD. |
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The figure looks good, with a repaint. The card looks a bit better with the higher price tag and better wording. No regeneration? With those stats it would be very hard to kill him, but he does do it in the water.
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"with a normal or special attack". ~Dysole, who might be dropping into the wordings person position |
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