Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion
We are open for business! :D Just as a reminder, these are the general features that we will be judging on, so keep them in mind for your nominations:
We rely on community involvement in nominating units which will then be playtested by a panel of judges. Judges are permanently appointed, and serve until they choose to step down. The current Judges are:Soldiers of Valhalla display thread (inducted units) SoV & C3V Books of Index Week at HSers SoV Interview Part I Week at HSers SoV Interview Part II units pending acceptance for review Jedidiah Mulroney by Pumpkin King Yes - 1 (superfrog)units under Unified Fanscape review <none> units currently being reviewed Shadow Wraith by Sir Heroscape Yes - 3 (Scytale, BiggaBullfrog, and Dysole)Agrith-Naar by Sir Heroscape Yes - 3 (Scytale, superfrog, and wriggz)Drow Assassin by Leaf It Yes - 2 (Scytale and superfrog)High Dune Scorpions by Sir Heroscape and Leaf It Yes - 1 (Scytale)Jim Whitecloud by Leaf It Yes - 1 (Scytale)Master Aldorn (primary) by Leaf_It Yes - 1 (Scytale)Visages of Aldorn (secondary) by Leaf_It Yes - 1 (Scytale)Lady Aldorn by Leaf_It Yes - 0Necro-Mage Elba by NecroBlade Yes - 0Brigdhe by Shadowking Yes - 0Diorite Defender by ryguy266 Yes - 0Shards of She-Kul-Ra by SkyWhale Yes - 0Wulfing Hunters by Shiftrex Yes - 0Nordlüng by Sherman Davies Yes - 0units under final United Fanscape review Masha Shingai by Astroking112 Yes - 4 (Scytale, superfrog, wriggz, and Vydar_XLIII)Lee Jun by Leaf_It Yes - 4 (BiggaBullfrog, Scytale, Vydar_XLIII, and wriggz)Rujin by Sir Heroscape Yes - 3 (Scytale, Vydar_XLIII, superfrog, and Dysole) |
SECTION 1: Submission guidelines and tips
1. Any number of units may be nominated in a single post, including "synergistic" units that function best as a group. When nominating multiple units, you may choose one of four options for your submission: a) Choose a unit to be the "primary" unit of the submission, and the rest to be "secondary" units. The "primary" unit may pass by itself without the "secondary" units passing, but if the "primary" unit fails, all "secondary" units will be withdrawn. "Secondary" units will be judged based on the "primary" unit.2. Nominated units require a card formatted in a manner that is easy to read. 3. Miniatures must be listed in the submission, readily available, and appropriately scaled, with consideration taken for cost and for labor, such as paint, required to obtain the sculpt. In all but some special cases the miniatures must be pre-painted. 4. All units suggested should fit thematically within the Heroscape universe. Units should follow a Heroscape general and should include an origin world that is part of the Heroscape canon in almost all cases. 5. Anyone can nominate a unit for consideration. Nominated units require a majority vote (50%+1) of the Council before they will be considered for review. 6. Do NOT slap a unit together and nominate it for consideration. Game play experience and observations are encouraged. The SoV is a tool for ensuring excellence, not for helping refine a rough draft. (The Pre-SoV Workshop is a great place to look for help refining a unit before submitting it here.) SECTION 2: How units are judged Units nominated for consideration will go through the following process after a majority of acceptance votes by the judges: 1. Units accepted for review will be playtested competitively at least once by five judges. 2. Consideration for approved units will be given, generally, based on the following criteria and in this order: balance, playability, creativity, and theme. 3. Time for consideration is: as long as it takes for the judges to make an informed decision. 4. Great units will be approved, not good ones. Don't let this discourage you. 5. Judge discussions will occur in public and private forums on the non-official Heroscape web site: Currently www.heroscapers.com 6. Reviews on units will be public with status and results presented. 7. Units must receive 4 reviews supporting induction and no more than 1 review against induction in order to be considered for acceptance into the Soldiers of Valhalla, after which they will be reviewed by the C3V and if approved there will be re-formatted and given the Soldiers of Valhalla Seal of Approval and admitted into the C3V as well. SECTION 3: Self-governance 1. The Council will contain a number of judges that the sitting judges find appropriate, but never less than 5. 2. Judges will maintain their position unless: a) They are not heard from by fellow judges on the official non-official Heroscape web site for a period of 31 days, or b) They abstain for a total of three months or for three consecutive units under review, whichever comes later. 3. If a vacancy on the council occurs, judges will be replaced by those who: a) show interest in serving, and b) after consideration of the sitting judges receive 75 % vote of approval. Voting and discussion of a replacement judge may occur in private. 4. Judges will not be allowed to vote on their own units. During the judging of their own units their vote will be considered an abstention for the percentages needed to both playtest and approve the unit. Their vote will NOT be counted as an abstention for purposes of the "three consecutive units" portion of Section 3-2-b. 5. These by-laws may be changed and amended at any time by a 75% vote of sitting judges. Units that have been inducted in the Soldiers of Valhalla: :star: link to YES reviews :emptystar: link to NO reviews Zombie Hulk (Book) by dok and Good Pig :star::star::star::star::star: Tyrian the Kyrie Warrior (Book) by Paronychodon :emptystar::star::star::star::star::star::star: Zettian Infantry (Book) by dok :star::star::star::star::star: Priscus (Book) by Filthy the Clown :star::star::star::star::star::star: Cxurg'gyath (Book) by Tolamos :star::star::star::star: Beakface Sneaks (Book) by Super Bogue :star::star::star::star: Hoplitron (Book) by dok :star::star::star::star: Brimstone (Book) by Scytale :star::star::star::star: Kantono Daishi (Book) by qt.bangerang :star::star::star::emptystar::star: Jarek Guy (Book) by fishguy1 :star::star::star::star: Prince Al'kahora (Book) by capsocrates :star::star::star::emptystar::star: Asterios (Book) by the French HS Community :star::star::star::star: Red Ants of Aunstrom (Book) by Scytale :star::star::star::star: Cormin the Dark (Book) by Maklar the Silver Prince :star::star::star::star: Ashi-Dhulu (Book) by MegaSilver :star::star::star::star: Urk (Book) by Ninja Status and superfrog :star::star::star::star: Executioner 616 (Book) by Dysole :star::star::star::star: Kon-Tar-Na (Book) by dok :star::star::star::star: Viceron the Blood Knight (Book) by Ixe :star::star::star::star: Maltis Tez (Book) by Leaf It :star::emptystar::star::star::star: Tetraites (Book) by Sir Heroscape :star::star::star::star: Bol (Book) by The Dewk :star::star::star::star: Uzog (Book) by Kinseth :star::star::star::star: Kha (Book) by kolakoski :star::star::star::star: Rendar Fy (Book) by capsocrates :star::star::star::star: Lilja (Book) by Lamaclown :star::star::star::star: Xundar (primary) (Book) by Sir Heroscape :star::star::star::star: Shadow Binder (secondary) (Book) by Sir Heroscape :star::star::star::star: Shadow Fiend (secondary) (Book) by Sir Heroscape :star::star::star::star: Shadow Hound (secondary) (Book) by Sir Heroscape :star::star::star::star: Specters of Aldorn (Book) by Leaf It :star::star::star::star: Beakface Rogue (Book) by Sir Heroscape and wriggz :star::star::star::star: Soontir Van (Book) by Arch-vile :star::star::star::star: Swaysil (Book) by Maklar the Silver Prince :star::star::emptystar::star::star: Olog (Book) by The Long eared bat :star::star::star::star: Clayton Pierce (Book) by Discord group :star::star::star::star: Kate Crawford (Book) by Pumpkin_King :star::star::star::star: M.A.R.S. (Book) by Astroking112 :star::star::star::star: Units that were reviewed but not approved for Soldiers of Valhalla: :star: link to YES reviews :emptystar: link to NO reviews Gor'Vath by robbdaman :emptystar: :emptystar: Priscus by Filthy the Clown :star: :emptystar: :star: :star: :emptystar: Zombiekazes by hextr1p :emptystar: :emptystar: Blood Raptor by krysto2002 :emptystar: :emptystar: Eremon Vandel by clancampbell :emptystar: :emptystar: Unukk by GameBear :emptystar: :emptystar: Crypt Guards by Super Bogue :emptystar: :emptystar: 77th Infantry Division by tcgkln :emptystar: (withdrawn) Green Wyrmling by killercactus :emptystar: :star: :emptystar: Gatekeepers by Darkmage7a :emptystar: :emptystar: Deepwater Warrior by dok :emptystar: :emptystar: Rat Swarms by Killometer :star: :emptystar: :emptystar: Ibixian Ridge Raiders by Typhon2222 and Sertorius :emptystar: :emptystar: Herd Chief Baabas by Typhon2222 and Sertorius :emptystar: (withdrawn) Horned Skull Champion by qt.bangerang :emptystar: :emptystar: Gargoyle by dok :emptystar: :emptystar: Beakface Sneaks by Super Bogue (withdrawn) Gor'Vath by robbdaman :emptystar: :emptystar: Skeleton Archers by Typhon2222 and Sertorius :emptystar: :emptystar: Buccaneers of the Endless Sea by Super Bogue :emptystar: :emptystar: Dashi Takainto by qt.bangerang :star: :star: :star: :emptystar::emptystar: Clyemne by DeathDoom :emptystar: :emptystar: Vargach by Kaemon Awa 123 :emptystar: :emptystar: Khophawet by Typhon2222 :star: :emptystar: :emptystar: Rorshack by William099 :emptystar: :emptystar: Tentacles of the Kraken by qt.bangerang :emptystar: (withdrawn) Threforian Raptor by Fi Skitara :emptystar: :emptystar: Greenspawn Assassin by boromir96 and awesomeunleashed :emptystar: (did not pass unified fanscape review) Ragweb Spider by Son of Arathorn :star: (did not pass unified fanscape review) Shaitan by Son of Arathorn :star::star::emptystar::emptystar: Wraith of Bleakewood by qt.bangerang :emptystar: (withdrawn) Horned Skull Champion by qt.bangerang :star: (withdrawn) Kheris Fhen by the French HS Community :star::emptystar::emptystar: Grommel Bronzewielder by Son of Arathorn :emptystar::emptystar: Kantono Daishi by qt.bangerang :star: :star: :star: :star: (withdrawn) Sundol by vegetarian18 :star::emptystar::star::emptystar: Thorseby Woodsmen by Tai-Pan :star: :emptystar: :emptystar: Thrangir by superfrog :emptystar::emptystar: Kar-Su-Na by Son of Arathorn (did not pass unified fanscape review) Pavin Nahz by Arch-vile (did not pass unified fanscape review) Pygar Fasir by McHotcakes :emptystar::emptystar: Gruoark by Toogwick_tuk:emptystar::emptystar: Rampage by William099 :emptystar::emptystar: Warden 722 by dok :star::emptystar::emptystar: Knights of Aundair by Kinseth (did not pass unified fanscape review) Urk by Ninja Status (did not pass unified fanscape review) Elgos Knights by Ixe :emptystar::emptystar: Viceron the Dark Knight by Ixe :star::star::emptystar::emptystar: Kobolds of Idona Keep by Boot Camp of Valhalla (did not pass unified fanscape review) Jaraptara by Kinseth :emptystar::star::emptystar: Uzog by Kinseth :star::emptystar::emptystar: Retchtongue Warband (primary) by Kinseth :emptystar::emptystar: Ragsh Skullcrusher (secondary) by Kinseth :emptystar::emptystar: Grull the Wicked (secondary) by Kinseth :emptystar::emptystar: Rampage by William099 :emptystar::emptystar: Viceron the Blood Knight by Ixe :emptystar::emptystar: Swaysil of the Northlands by Maklar the Silver Prince :emptystar::emptystar: Maltis Tez by Leaf_It (did not pass unified fanscape review) Uzog by Kinseth :emptystar::emptystar: Maltis Tez by Leaf_It (did not pass unified fanscape review) Agent Fawcett by Soundwarp SG-1 :emptystar::star::emptystar: Jack of Blades by BiggaBullfrog (did not pass unified fanscape review) Beakface Archer (primary) by Sir Heroscape and wriggz :star::star::star::emptystar::emptystar: Beakface Rogue (secondary) by Sir Heroscape and wriggz :star::star::star::emptystar::emptystar: Johann Graybeard by DewNoHarm :emptystar::emptystar: Drow Assassin by Leaf_It (did not pass unified fanscape review) Rujin by Sir Heroscape :star::star::emptystar::star::emptystar: Agrah Fenh by superfrog :emptystar::emptystar: Specters of Aldorn by Leaf_It :emptystar: (withdrawn) Soontir Van by Arch-vile :emptystar::emptystar: Specters of Aldorn by Leaf_It :emptystar::emptystar: Masha Shingai by Astroking112 :star::emptystar::star::emptystar: Xundar (primary) by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn) Shadow Binder (secondary) by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn) Shadow Fiend (secondary) by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn) Shadow Hound (secondary) by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn) Clayton Pierce by Discord group :emptystar::emptystar: Catalan Mercenaries by Scytale :emptystar::emptystar: Agrith-Naar by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn) Great Axes of Ironstone by Leaf_It :emptystar: (withdrawn) Dalmar Stonewall by Leaf_It :emptystar:(withdrawn) Masha Shingai by Astroking112 (did not pass unified fanscape review) Clayton Pierce by Discord group (did not pass unified fanscape review) Agrith-Naar by Sir Heroscape (withdrawn) Agrith-Naar by Sir Heroscape :emptystar::emptystar: Abe no Seimei (primary) by Astroking112 (withdrawn) Kincho (secondary) by Astroking112 (withdrawn) Great Axes of Ironstone by Leaf_It (withdrawn) Dalmar Stonewall by Leaf_It (withdrawn) Abe no Seimei (primary) by Astroking112 :star::emptystar::emptystar: Kincho (secondary) by Astroking112 :star::emptystar::emptystar: Ibaraki-doji (secondary) by Astroking112 :star::emptystar::emptystar: Wulfing Hunters by Shiftrex (did not pass united fanscape review) Wulfling Hunters by Shiftrex :emptystar:(withdrawn) Lee Jun by Leaf_It :emptystar:(withdrawn) Feral Swog by MegaSilver (withdrawn) Kirvin the Wily by SchismaticSounds (did not pass united fanscape review) High Dune Scorpions by Sir Heroscape and Leaf_It (did not pass united fanscape review) Drow Assassin by Leaf_It :emptystar: (withdrawn) Shadow Stalker by Sir Heroscape :emptystar::emptystar: Feral Swog by MegaSilver :star::emptystar::emptystar: Nordlung by Sherman Davies :emptystar::emptystar: Diorite Defender by ryguy266 :emptystar: (withdrawn) Kafniraa by Shadowking (did not pass united fanscape review) Annunhounds by Blue Trails (did not pass united fanscape review) Wulfing Hunters by Shiftrex :emptystar::emptystar: |
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It does mean that, though in the end I believe that we are looking for cards to fit fully within the Heroscape world (note #3 above). So, it's likely that we'd end up doing a revision of the card to match other Heroscape cards.
This is still a point of some discussion among the judges, but in my mind #3 implies a standard Heroscape card at some point. |
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Do you have an art guy for this project? I would be totally willing to lead on that front. I just do not have the time to playtest that would be needed to judge.
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Thanks for the offer. We'll talk about it and let you know. Of course, first a card has to actually make it past our grueling review--might be months, even years... :D.
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Since any nominated card must have an available miniature to go with it you can check the availability of your miniature using the links below to various online miniatures games stores.
Site Sponsors: Auggie's Cool Stuff, Inc. Miniature Market Troll and Toad Wargamer's Headquarters (House Mouse Games is a Site Sponsor as well. The above list represents the Site Sponsors who carry other games in addition to Heroscape) Other Stores: Fantization (one of my favorites) Games Empire FRP Games (another really good one) RPG Shop This one seems to have disappeared Noble Knight Games Paizo The Warstore Reaper Mini Crocodile Games Privateer Press (Hordes, Warmachine, Monsterpocalypse, Voltron [if only Voltron was the right scale]) Role 4 Initiative (D&D) Wyrd Miniatures (Malifaux) Games Workshop (I know, I know, but some people do use their sculpts) Icon USA Team Covenant (they specialize in Monster Apocalypse) There are others but if a miniature used for a custom can't be found on any of these sites, chances are it is no longer available. Also, sites like Cool Mini or Not probably wouldn't be acceptable as a source for availability. It has a gallery of some incredible paint jobs (visit it if you've never been there) but it isn't a good source to purchase from. If you know of other stores that offer something in miniatures that you don't think any of the above offer feel free to let us know through PM and it can be added to this post. |
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I'm not allowed not to nominate yet but I'm thinking about nominating Deathwalker 10000 by krysto2002.
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I can probably figure out a good nomination for a card. I'll wait on it though;)
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One sneak peek:
Valkrill is ok by us. We're all about evil. |
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You'll have to add Games Workshop to the list Lama. I know they aren't well loved by some but the stuff they put out works great for what we need.
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The Soldiers of Valhalla is ready for nominations. :thumbsup:
Just as a reminder, these are the general features that we will be judging on, so keep them in mind for your nominations:
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I nominate Deathwalker 10000 by Krysto2002:
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I'm not generally the type to nominate my own items, but I think in the case of customs it's going to be hard to get lots of nominations by other folks due to the vast number of threads out there.
Given the above, I am putting forward one of my own customs for nomination. I have playtested these guys a number of times (a couple of which are recorded in my custom thread) and have made a number of tweaks to their original design. I think it's a solid figure, but I would not be surprised at all if you guys felt it needed a tweak or two as I don't have the strategic mind for this game that I know alot of you guys do :) As such, I humbly put forward 'The Nightwalker' and his 'Bodaks' for nomination into the Soldiers of Valhalla. The Nightwalker - D&D Mini - Link To Buy - http://store02.prostores.com/servlet...Detail?no=3406 Alternative Model - http://store02.prostores.com/servlet...Detail?no=5958 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/...f73fc33a_o.jpg Bodak - D&D Mini - Link To Buy - http://store02.prostores.com/servlet...Detail?no=5938 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/...c80f596b_o.jpg |
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Deathwalker 10,000
OK it looks like a Thor II from Battletech...but if you try to find that figure in minature form...its almost impossible. I thought I would look up alternatives and offer them, but Mechwarrior miniature are sold out everywhere. So with this in mind, I am voting No to reveiw |
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I think that every figure that can hit the board needs to have an explicit point cost, so I vote NO to review the Nightwalker and Bodaks.
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Thanks for the feedback guys, and I understand what you guys mean.
The one thing I would ask however is try not to look at the Bodak as it's own figure...because it really isn't in the traditional sense. The Bodak is really a special power of the Nightwalker, and as such, was built directly into the points of The Nightwalker. Having to spend points on the Bodak's wouldn't really work as you never know how many you are going to have and it's largely dependant on the type of battle going on. There may be battles where it makes no sense to create a Bodak due to the tactics being used by your enemy (and the inherent risk in creating them). Regardless, you can never have more then 3, and I never found it to be overpowered. (at least not in my hands, hehe). Those decisions are what I was hoping would make the figure interesting to use as well as balanced. I 100% understand if this new mechanic will not work for you guys, just wondering if looking at it from a different perspective changes your thoughts at all? |
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Sorry, but no (at least for me). I understood that they are "part" of the Nightwalker, but since they have their own card and their own figure(s), they need their own price, imo. Lamaclown's example of the Rechets is perfect-you have no idea if you'll get to use them, but you have to pay seperately for them anyways.
They're a cool idea, but I'm not ready to break so far away from HS convention yet (Fanscape might take us there eventually, though :D). |
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Thanks for taking another look Killo, and I understand.
I would argue that the Rechets are not really the same, as I can't think of any example where you wouldn't really want to summon them, where as I can think of a number of situations where I would't want to create a Bodak (in addition to not being able to due to the creation requirements), but I know it's a little out there as far as abilities go :) Thanks again for the eyes on the custom though :) |
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There are two things I will be checking for reflexively when I see a nomination. 1. Is the mini information there, and 2. Is the card written in gud English. If one of those is missing then the card is, in my opinion, not something I would ever vote yes for, so I may as well vote 'no' to review.
The Deathwalker 10,000 violates Rule 1 so I vote no. It's difficult for me to overstate the importance of the availability of the mini. If others can't get it, why should it be included in the HeroScape canon? I read the Nightwalker and Bodak cards (again) and Therrian's follow up comments with some interest. I remember reading it the first time, it was either Therrian's thread or maybe a competition. I don't think at this point it will be getting reviewed, but I will add an additional concern. As I read the card the Nightwalker can destroy friendly units to create Bodaks. I suspect that was intended but I have significant concerns about the power of that unit when he can create his own bonding squad, and I'm curious to know if Therrian has played him that way. Needing an 11 or higher to create the Bodak might be prohibitively risky if the unit is a Krav, but not so much if it's a Deathreaver. Give Nightwalker a bunch of rats and not only do you have a screen to shield him from range, but you have board control *and* a steady supply of Bodak parts. Therrian, thank you for responding to the other judges with your thoughts, it's a very interesting concept, using essentially wandering sculpts as additional arms of the Nightwalker. They are, of course, as a practical matter a regenerating bonding squad and I'm sure you made an effort to build that in to the 220 point cost. Very interesting innovation, though I have a serious concern about how easy it would be to generate (and regenerate) the bonding squad by destroying friendlies. I'm also struggling to wrap my brain around two other issues related to Nightwalker. 1. What about start zone size, and 2. The whole concept of a 'common hero' that is and is not a unit of its own. I wonder if this guy isn't just bending too many rules at once. No to Nightwalker, but many kudos for the aggressive innovation. Looks like fun, but just too many subtle (and not so subtle) problems he might have to be a part of the canon. |
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To be honest, I had never considered attacking friendlies, and that does open up some interesting possibilities...and I can totally see where that changes the way this guy could be played.
Thanks for pointing that out! I would probably remove that possibility from the figure going forward as I do agree that it provides some power-creep that would be potentially balance wrecking. Thanks again for the feedback...learned something new about the figure, who woulda thought! |
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3 NOs removes Therrian's Nightwalker and Bodaks from the process.
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I always wondered what you guys saw in DW10K I didn't. I honestly don't think he's my best... just because someone nominated it and put it through CHCG24 doesn't mean it is my best. Personally, I would rather see Gordy or Asmodeus or the gruts or even the freakin' Raptors nominated for something! But I can't nominate my own cards as far as I know, so I'll be on the lookout for good customs for you guys.
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If that's the case: :duh::excited:
I'd like to nominate the following: Asmodeus - uses deathrattle viper from D&D, it's about $0.50 for a hero from fiction that we all love and fear equally - "look into my eyes and I will show you eternity..."
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Blood Raptor -a fair substitution for Swogs and a good unit on their own, uses bloodseeker drake from D&D, also about $0.50
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Gordyrr - Golden Dragon hatchling for Jandar, but not the cheapest figure, about $10.00
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Swarm Gruts - A NEW ORC SQUAD, and all you need is BLADE GRUTS!
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Einar's Centurions, their playability is an enigma to me at the moment, but it sounds like fun, just sub in a squad of Romans!
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5 Easy, cheap custom units that all fit perfectly in HS! Some may use D&D figures, but they are FAR from D&D units. |
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Go for it, Krysto. Nominate one or more of 'em, similar to the way the others were nominated.
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Here are my decisions for the five Krysto Customs nominated:
Asmodeus - 50 points for a combo of Me-Burq-Sa and Sujoah - Sorry this is too powerful for 50 points -- My vote is No Blood Raptor - I like these guys, but again they under-costed. If an opponent figure has a few wounds, you could conceivably have 3 attacks of 6 for 90 points. Sorry that is too powerful - My vote is No Einars Centurions - First of I'm not sure who would spend 150 points for a Unique squad. Secondly they are a combo of legionaries, Sentinels and Minions who bond, Again too powerful -- My vote is No Swarm Gruts - Swarm Tactics is just confusing - My vote is No Gordyrr - Doesn't look that bad...but it is under-costed for a dragon that can attack up to three figures and has ranged counterstrike like the Oni, if he was 200-220 points maybe but at 145, sorry again my vote is No. |
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You should probably clarify this in the nomination guidelines:
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My suggestion to nominate "one or more" was not intended to encourage 5 in a post. As far as I've noticed, nobody goes to the BoV and nominates 5 maps at once. Even Dignan's maps only go in one at a time.
Another preliminary remark: Speaking for myself, and maybe yes maybe not for the other judges, I am looking for something significantly different from many of the fine customs I've seen on these boards. I want to review units that are *balanced* and *thematic* and have *balanced costs.* Also they need to be playable not just for you, customs creator, and your friends, but for me and my friends and for the various 'Scapers around the globe. Not just for fun, casual play, but for tournament play. Many of the fine customs around the site, like Therrian's Nightwalker and Bodaks, look outstanding and bring new flavor to the game. But that does not mean they are necessarily ready to withstand the rigors of, say, two 11 year olds trying to understand the card, or one guy nonchalantly passing it to his opponent at a tournament and the TD has to come over to try to decipher the 1,000 conditions on the activation of Giant Evil Ray Gun Death Lazer Mini Explosion Quasi Special Attack. For now we don't have a rule against dropping 5 nominations in one post, and I have a few minutes to tap out my votes on some of Krysto's units, so here goes: Asmodeus: Interesting combination of powers. Seems almost like a melee version of Me Burq Sa, which could explain his 50 point cost. I am troubled by a couple things. The venom counters, intended to last beyond the loss of Asmodeus (or not? wording is not clear), seem very powerful, particularly with the 25% chance to prevent defense dice from being rolled. I have my doubts about the amount of playtesting done at this point cost, frankly. Also, and this may just be me, "Asmodeus" is not some randomly generated name pulled from a hat. It's an old, old name for the "King of Demons," though I first recognized it from AD&D as the name of the Lord of the Nine Hells. It just doesn't seem right to give a name like that to a height 3 snake, like giving "Charlemagne" to Finn. Just doesn't seem right. No to Asmodeus. I'll have to give some thought to the Blood Raptors. It appears to me that they can only attack once per OM, it's a movement bonding thing they have going on. You list them as a Small 3; I suppose that means they are small and fit on a single hex base. I'll come back to this one later but I am concerned about its cost. Gordyrr: Very thematic. I like the multi-explosion special attack for a powerful dragon. How big is the sculpt? I thought we've seen images of this sculpt elsewhere on the forum and it's wyrmling-size. Regardless, combining the reflective scales and the multi-special attack with a 5/4 flyer with 6 move and 6 life seems like a lot of muscle for 145 points. No to Gordyrr. I'll come back to the other two & the Blood Raptors another time. This has taken longer than I expected. |
Re: Soldiers of Valhalla-TAKING NOMINATIONS!
The only one I really like of my current customs is Gor'vath
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Fetid does need a bit of rewording but I think he's relatively well balanced, can be a pain in melee but he can only hit one thing at a time and dies easy enough from range. |
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Edit: Never mind its a Hezrou figure from the Angelfire Series. |
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krysto's nominations:
Asmodeus-too cheap; NO to review Blood Raptor-Pack hunting as worded is potentially unplayable; NO to review Gordyrr-too cheap: NO to review Swarm Gruts-awkwardly worded, but...intriguing. I'm interested in trying out SG x7, Chompy & Nerak; YES to review Einar's Centurions-redundant unit, inconsistantly worded abilities; NO to review robbdaman's nomination Gor'vath-Yes to review I'll get all the votes logged tomorrow |
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Ok, time to wrap these up.
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As with many of the others I am curious to know the size of the actual mini. Rob, you don't have a picture of him in action, do you? |
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