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Taeblewalker July 21st, 2013 10:55 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I'm thinking of have the blob start small and then grow when he eats things. I have the different sizes more or less worked out, and I suppose you'd have to draft each separately like C3G Beastboy and his animal forms.

Balantai July 23rd, 2013 12:41 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I think 150 points is a good starting point for Neo. Any other thoughts?

Neo
Aquilla

Human
Unique Hero
Hacker
Conflicted
Medium 5

Life 4
Move 6
Range 7
Attack 3
Defense 4
Points 150

INFORMATION DOWNLOAD
Begin the game with up to 6 Power Glyphs. At the start of the game, before placing Order Markers, choose 1 Power Glyph and place it on this card. Once per game, after revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, if Neo is unengaged, you may also reveal the "X" Order Marker on this card to place 1 additional Power Glyph on this card.

LOTS OF GUNS
When Neo attacks with his normal attack, he may attack one additional time. When Neo uses his Lots Of Guns special power, he may not use any Power Glyph on his card that would allow him to attack more than two times this turn.

MANIPULATE THE MATRIX
When Neo rolls defense dice against an attacking figure who is not adjacent, one shield will block all damage. When Neo rolls defense dice against an adjacent attacking figure, if he rolls at least one shield, the most wounds he may take for this attack is one.

Balantai July 24th, 2013 12:46 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Any objection to creating these new power glyphs for our Neo custom?

Phantom Walk
Ninjutsu Barrage Special Attack
Freerunner (from the Ezio Auditore design)

After this, I think we can vote him to finalization.

Taeblewalker July 24th, 2013 01:30 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Those are fine. Why limit his downloads?

mac122 July 24th, 2013 02:22 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taeblewalker (Post 1848102)
Those are fine. Why limit his downloads?

There was a real concern about overpowering Neo. One of the earlier drafts allowed Neo to switch powers depending on the situation, but the consensus was that seemed too much like Neo forgets one power to add another. IMO, the current version should work well. You start with a large pool of possible powers and can craft Neo to match up against the opposing army.

Taeblewalker July 24th, 2013 02:38 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
We could decide that Neo is customizable from one game to another, but leaving him as is fine with me.

Taeblewalker July 24th, 2013 02:52 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
The Blob!

I think we should start with a small one that grows, just like all of the movies.

As for its aversion to the cold:

COLD WEAKNESS
The Blob cannot end its movement on a snow or ice space.

It's harder to have it roll fewer defense dice against "cold attacks." Ice Shards and Fledgling Ice Shards are cold, but they are also sharp. Same with Ice Spikes. Racheim is the only one whose attack is mostly about cold.

Now, a "fire weakness" unit might roll less defense dice against units with Lava Resistant. But how to do it with the Blob? I think we might be stuck with just snow and ice tiles.

I have pretty well-developed ideas about his primary powers, but I think we should tackle this first. Any thoughts?

JC McMinis July 24th, 2013 05:33 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
As far as Neo goes I think how he is currently written loks good and no objections to the glyhps.

Taeblewalker July 24th, 2013 07:01 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmcminis (Post 1848170)
As far as Neo goes I think how he is currently written loks good and no objections to the glyhps.

Then I'll start on some of his playtests. I've taken the liberty of putting up some Blob-related stuff just to get juices flowing, since it seems like we've pretty much decided what to do about Neo, except his points. I would agree to 150 and take it from there.

I'll try these matchups:
Neo vs. Cyprien Esenwein
Neo vs. Marcus Decimus Gallus and 2x Roman Legionairres
Neo plus 2x Arrow Gruts and 3x Swog Riders vs. Nilfheim and 2x Greenscale Warriors

mac122 July 25th, 2013 02:11 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
Here's Neo's card. Anything else on him before I post to the display thread?
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...F.jpg~original
I'll be posting the cards for the power glyphs later today or tomorrow.

mac122 July 29th, 2013 07:46 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
New Power Glyphs
Glyph of Freerunner
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...F.jpg~original

Glyph of Ninjutsu Barrage
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...F.jpg~original

Glyph of Phantom Walk
http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...F.jpg~original

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Let me know if you see any typos or such on the cards. After seeing the Ninjutsu Barrage and Freerunner cards together, I'm going to change the colors on one of them so they are more distinct.

SirGalahad July 29th, 2013 08:14 PM

Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 
I like the middle one where what the glyph does and what the power does are separate.

Could you do that for the other two?


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