The Book of Doctor Psycho
The Book of Doctor Psycho C3G DC WAVE 47 TRINITY http://heroscapers.com/c3g/released/...ycho_comic.png Comic PDF http://heroscapers.com/c3g/released/...sycho_mini.png Mini PDF The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Superman Wonder Woman set. Its model number and name are #039/Doctor Psycho. _________________________________________________________________ Character Bio - A powerful telepath with diminutive size, Edgar Cizko hates all women and Wonder Woman most of all! _________________________________________________________________ -Rulings and Clarifications-
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NAME = DOCTOR PSYCHO
SECRET IDENTITY = EDGAR CIZKO SPECIES = METAHUMAN UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO CLASS = TELEPATH PERSONALITY = INSANE SIZE/HEIGHT = SMALL 3 LIFE = 4 MOVE = 5 RANGE = 3 ATTACK = 5 DEFENSE = 3 POINTS = 175 AMAZON ANTAGONISM At the start of the game, if there is another Antagonist in your army or an Amazon in any player's army, Doctor Psycho has the class of Antagonist in addition to what is listed on this card. Doctor Psycho cannot leave engagement with an Amazon and when he attacks an Amazon, add 1 to his Attack number. NIGHTMARE PROJECTION Enemy figures within 3 clear sight spaces of Doctor Psycho that do not have the Mental Shield special power do not have clear sight on any figures friendly to them, cannot roll for leaving engagement attacks against Doctor Psycho, and roll 1 fewer defense die for each revealed Order Marker on this card when attacked by Doctor Psycho. REACTIVE MIND CONTROL 10 If Doctor Psycho is targeted and attacked by an opponent's figure that does not have the Mental Shield special power, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 10 or higher, Doctor Psycho takes no damage and the opponent's turn immediately ends. Take temporary control of the attacking figure. Move the attacking figure up to 4 spaces then return control of the figure to the player who controlled it before the Reactive Mind Control. Figures moved with this special power will not take any leaving engagement attacks. |
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Instead of another Players' Army I'd just say opponent's. Weird that he becomes antagonistic of teammate's Amazons.
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COMPETITIVE REVIEW BOARD CHECKLIST
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CONSISTENCY CHECKLIST (SHORT FORM)
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I propose we move to Initial Playtesting
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yea
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Yea
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yar
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Yea
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This passes. Thanks, peeps.
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Why is he OK with an Amazon in his army?
What is the story behind the Nightmares? Does he create illusions? May use that one if I ever get to the Terror Bears. |
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Its "Amazon in another players army" so right now he can hang with Wonder Woman in the same army without being an Antagonist. (Not that theres a particular reason to want them in the same army or that you'd care that he was an Antagonist in that army)
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I think in C3G, if two units are in the same army, you just kinda have to accept "this is a story where these characters are working together and will act accordingly."
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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: DOCTOR PSYCHO VERSION TESTED
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Army Test Map: Ravaged Road Units: Doctor Psycho (175), Lex Luthor (IJ) (185), Joker (IJ) (245), Reverse Flash (295) (900) vs Zatara (230), Doctor Fate (JL) (370), Zatanna (JL) (250), Healing Energy (x2) (40), Lightning Bolt (x2) (10) (900)
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___________________________________________________________ Army TestMap: Friendly Neighborhood Units: Doctor Psycho (175), Gorilla Grodd (IJ) (285), Sinestro (IJ) (250), Silver Banshee (290) (1000) vs Batman (Outsiders) (220), Geo-Force (280), Katana (Outsiders) (150), Halo (190), Black Lightning (160) (1000)
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___________________________________________________________ Army TestMap: Grundy’s Grave Units: Doctor Psycho (175), Cheetah (Barbara) (275), Giganta (235), Lex Luthor (IJ) (185), Black Manta (230) (1100) vs Wonder Woman (JL) (310), Black Canary (JL) (220), Hawkwoman (260), Green Arrow (JL) (210), Atom (JL) (100) (1100)
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___________________________________________________________ UNIT SUMMARY: He has a potential to be positively nasty, but plenty of match ups are bad for him and he can fall pretty hard to a bad roll. I’m liking him as is. If he gets hot in public testing, I could see bumping the Reactive Mind Control roll a tad, but I like him where he’s at going to public testing. |
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I propose we move Doctor Psycho to public testing once I have an opening.
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Yea
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yea, looking good!
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Yea
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yea
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This passes. Thanks.
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A few wording edits:
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Thanks! Updated.
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"Army" and "Class" also don't need caps, while we're at it!
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Yeah, I have a bad habit of over-capitalizing. Thanks! SP is updated.
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Better than having a habit of capsizing.
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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: He didn’t go to evil medical school to be called Mr. Psycho Army Test Map: Custom Units: Dr. Psycho (175), Lex Luthor, Solomon Grundy, Gorilla Grodd (1000) VS Alien Queen, Alien Drone x4 (1000)
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test Map: Custom Units: Dr. Psycho (175), Joker, Gorilla Grodd, Reverse-Flash (1000) VS Fan4 (1000)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I like Psycho, he’s got a pretty unique play style. Nightmare Projection is less useful than it seems at first glance, as it does nothing against powers that affect figures you control - I had to throw out my first game which was against the Rogues because I misplayed that. Reactive Mind Control makes opponents want to just avoid him. But it’s also not reliable as the first game showed, and can be avoided as the second game showed. Felt reasonably balanced as is. He’s definitely better against powers that grant synergy to friendly figures, but most of our library grants synergy to figures you control. |
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Yeah, it'd be cool if the friendly disruption were more disruptive, but not sure there's a clean way to do that, so I don't mind it being a lighter touch.
Thanks for the tests! |
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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: (Insert Name Here Please) Version tested:
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Army Test Map: Elm Street - Custom Map Units: Lex Luthor 185, Solomon Grundy 355, Gorilla Grood 285, Dr Psycho VS Fantastic Four
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___________________________________________________________ Army Test Map: Elm Street - Custom Map Units: Deathstroke 285, Ravager(Grant) 185, Tattooed Man, Batroc the Leaper, Dr Psycho VS Wonder Woman 370, Wonder Girl 140, Arrowette, Amazon Warriors x3
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: 175 feels right. Works well in IJL builds as well as other Antagonist builds. Probably fine in Insane builds too. GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: 5 attack with a range of 3 is great. 2nd power feels super limited which may be okay. His big power is his third power, Reactive Mind Control. It really reminded me of Spider-Man 250. If you miss that d20 roll he can go down fast, but if you are hitting it he can be a real pain to put down. No changes that I can think of. Update: It appears that I played Dr Psychos 2nd power incorrectly. Ultimately it didn't effect the playtest, other than Dr Psycho would not of taken a wound from Wonder Woman 370 because of her rolling 1 less die on defense. I may have played the Warriors differently but they never blocked an attack by Dr Psycho so in the end it didn't matter. Game 1 the Fan4 were awful and would have been more awful with the defense reduction. |
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Army2 is my favorite army.
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Lol, I'll update that. |
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Missing Doctor Psycho in that second army as well. :p
Results look good! pre-yea if you're ready Bats |
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OK, I'm considering giving Nightmare Projection a tad more juice, but I wanted to get y'all's opinions on it. So if you can read this and care, please reply with your preferred option:
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Isn't B redundant since if they're not considered friendly to any other figures, they're engaging every figure they're adjacent to? Which means they also can't attack non-adjacent figure per the engagement rule? I feel like I'm missing something.
Otherwise I think C is best. Psycho definitely should be able to slip away from those he's affecting. |
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I like C as well
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I’d probably nix the Friendly thing entirely (or add a bunch of FAQs) as it’s clearly a confusing interaction. :lol:
I agree that C is my favorite. |
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You have to specifically be an opponent's figure to be in engagement, which this does not accomplish. I actually like B because it in some ways clarifies that interaction and lets us keep the Friendly bit without how to actually use it being as confusing. I like the Friendly bit, because it does affect a lot of powers, there's just a lot it also doesn't affect. |
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Ah, found the convo on Discord, and looked in the rulebook. I didn't realize engagement keyed specifically on opponent's figures. :up:
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Yeah, me either. Words are tricksy. Which is kind of why I like "C" because it makes it more obvious whether that's in play or not.
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OK. C takes it. I don't think that impacts things enough to require any more testing, but would love help writing the friendly part with more clarity. I'd like to still be able to shut off powers that specifically use "friendly" as the trigger.
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Does something like that work?
NIGHTMARE PROJECTION Enemy figures within 3 clear sight spaces of Doctor Psycho that do not have the Mental Shield special power are not affected by and cannot use special powers that affect friendly figures, cannot roll for leaving engagement attacks against Doctor Psycho, and roll 1 fewer defense die for each revealed Order Marker on this card when attacked by Doctor Psycho. |
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That does seem cleaner. :up:
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I like that better, much clearer for my peanut brain
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Sweet. SP updated. I propose we go to Final Editing.
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