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Fi Skirata March 28th, 2013 05:16 PM

The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
The Book of Tomb Skeletons

C3V Wave 3 - Vydar's Betrayal - Barbarians & Bones


Two of the figures used for this unit are Reaper figures from the Legendary Encounters line. The model names are Skeleton Spearman and Skeleton Swordsman.

The third figure used for this unit is a Pathfinder figure from the Pathfinder Battles: Heroes & Monsters set. Its model number and name is 7/Skeleton.


Character Bio: TBA


Quote:

FLANKING
When attacking with a Tomb Skeleton you control, if the defending figure is engaged with at least 1 other figure you control, it subtracts 1 from it's defense.

SKELETAL FORM
When rolling defense dice against an attack from a figure with a Range number of 4 or more that is not a Cleric or a Wizard, a Tomb Skeleton adds 1 die.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
- TBA

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-Combinations and Synergies-

Synergy Benefits Received

- Zombie Hulk : PARALYZING FEAR
As Undead, the Tomb Skeleton may benefit from the Zombie Hulk's PARALYZING FEAR defense penalty when attacking other figures.

- WARDEN 816 : Guard Leadership
As guards, Tomb Skeletons may benefit from Warden 816's GUARD LEADERSHIP movement bonus.

- SKULL DEMON : Valkrill Attack Aura 1
As a squad who follows Valkrill with a Range of 1, Tomb Skeletons may benefit from the Skull Demon's VALKRILL ATTACK AURA 1 ability
Synergy Benefits Offered

TBA
Synergy Imposed

- ANA KARITHON : Turn Undead Special Attack
As Undead, the Tomb Skeletons are subject to Ana Karithon's TURN UNDEAD SPECIAL ATTACK.

- CLERICS & WIZARDS : Skeletal Form
The Tomb Skeletons cannot receive their defense bonus from SKELETAL FORM against Clerics & Wizards with a range of 4 or more. Current Clerics and Wizards with a range of 4 or more include: Ana Karithon, Arkmer, Haduc, Talingul, and Ulginesh.
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
- TBA
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

Power Ranking- TBA
Their powers are nice but not enough to keep many competitive armies from hacking through these guys at great speed. C+

Unit Strategy Review
- TBA
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Fi Skirata March 28th, 2013 05:17 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
Should I put up an Imposing Synergies as well (for the Clerics and Wizards)? I have seen it once or twice in the original books, but I'm not sure what C3V's stand on it is.

MegaSilver March 28th, 2013 05:25 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
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Originally Posted by Fi Skirata (Post 1790177)
Should I put up an Imposing Synergies as well (for the Clerics and Wizards)? I have seen it once or twice in the original books, but I'm not sure what C3V's stand on it is.

Certainly.

Fi Skirata March 29th, 2013 03:51 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
Added the Imposing Synergies!

Edit: Added PDF as well.

Tiranx April 3rd, 2013 11:48 AM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
These guys remind me of the old Jason and the Argonauts movie with the claymation skeletons.

I am really interested to see how this version of skeletons does as a massive swarm army. I really liked the first set of skeletons and will be hard pressed to move my affection to these ones.

Tiranx May 13th, 2013 11:22 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
I just answered my own question. I played my son in a game of Heroscape tonight where I played 6 squads of Tomb Skeletons with a few heroes.

What I found is that they work really good. They function especially well with a highly mobile hero. The hero I used was one of my customs that gains temoporary flight, but some official figures that I could see doing really well would be:

-any dragon
-A Theracus + hero passenger
-Wyrmlings
-Air Elementals
-Sujoah
-Wyvern
-vampirs

or figures with mobility abiliies like disengage, phantom walk, telaportation, etc. That are easily manuevered adjacent to the opponents figures and the Tomb Skeletons kicking off Flanking.

A lot more fun in mass than I thought they would be.

Tai-Pan May 14th, 2013 02:57 AM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiranx (Post 1813788)
I just answered my own question. I played my son in a game of Heroscape tonight where I played 6 squads of Tomb Skeletons with a few heroes.

What I found is that they work really good. They function especially well with a highly mobile hero. The hero I used was one of my customs that gains temoporary flight, but some official figures that I could see doing really well would be:

-any dragon
-A Theracus + hero passenger
-Wyrmlings
-Air Elementals
-Sujoah
-Wyvern
-vampirs

or figures with mobility abiliies like disengage, phantom walk, telaportation, etc. That are easily manuevered adjacent to the opponents figures and the Tomb Skeletons kicking off Flanking.

A lot more fun in mass than I thought they would be.

Of those possibilities, I'd venture to guess that Theracus + either Tandros Kreel or Thorgrim would be the best choice. With three hexes, they can engage more. With Thorgrim, Theracus sticks around longer. With Tandros, engaged figures can only attack him. In both cases, an order marker to get one attack from Theracus or the hero isn't usually the best choice, so the heroes are just there to take damage and give the skeletons the chance to flank.

The thing I often look at when designing customs is, "Why can this unit do this and another can't?" For me, it doesn't make a lot of sense that the Tomb Skeletons are the only unit in the game that can flank. But that's just my opinion.

flameslayer93 May 14th, 2013 07:42 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
Quote:

The thing I often look at when designing customs is, "Why can this unit do this and another can't?" For me, it doesn't make a lot of sense that the Tomb Skeletons are the only unit in the game that can flank. But that's just my opinion.
The Goblin Cutters have a very similar power (it simply requires two other goblins to be engaged).

I'm mostly just unsure what to think of these guys. They seem balanced, but what's their purpose? Any insights C3V gents?

Arch-vile May 14th, 2013 08:13 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flameslayer93 (Post 1814119)
I'm mostly just unsure what to think of these guys. They seem balanced, but what's their purpose? Any insights C3V gents?

The Tomb Skellies aren't a unit I would use competitively, but when playtesting or playing with friends I would use them. The appeal for me is how inexpensive they are. If you are playing a 200 point game, you could have 15 Tomb Skeletons! Warden 816 helps them out, and Flanking comes into play more often than you'd think, again because you can afford so many skeletons.

I'm not sure about their true "purpose", and I have only played 3 games with them, but they have been fun and that's enough for me. :)

caps May 14th, 2013 08:21 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
I can't speak to their purpose since they were nearly finalized by the time I got involved in stuff, but they seem to be to be sort of a filler squad. Or maybe their purpose is more thematic than functional: the game now has a cheap skeleton squad option, something it previously lacked.

flameslayer93 May 14th, 2013 08:21 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch-vile (Post 1814131)
Quote:

Originally Posted by flameslayer93 (Post 1814119)
I'm mostly just unsure what to think of these guys. They seem balanced, but what's their purpose? Any insights C3V gents?

The Tomb Skellies aren't a unit I would use competitively, but when playtesting or playing with friends I would use them. The appeal for me is how inexpensive they are. If you are playing a 200 point game, you could have 15 Tomb Skeletons! Warden 816 helps them out, and Flanking comes into play more often than you'd think, again because you can afford so many skeletons.

I'm not sure about their true "purpose", and I have only played 3 games with them, but they have been fun and that's enough for me. :)

Yeah, I played against them when playing awesomeunleashed online and they seem fun, just kinda boring, IMO. They are dirt cheap, but that's really the only allure I could find to them. :|

Oh well, I'm sure someone will come up with something. ^_^

Edit: Just saw caps' post:
Quote:

I can't speak to their purpose since they were nearly finalized by the time I got involved in stuff, but they seem to be to be sort of a filler squad. Or maybe their purpose is more thematic than functional: the game now has a cheap skeleton squad option, something it previously lacked.
I suppose the filler theory could be correct. I had guessed something along those lines, but guessing does little. :p

johnny139 May 14th, 2013 08:22 PM

Re: The Book of Tomb Skeletons
 
Yeah, they're not as interesting from an army building perspective, but as bad guys for a scenario or a dungeon crawl they're invaluable.


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