Re: Heroes of Fiction: Design Thread
 

Doc often used disguises to gain entry into a villain's hideout or blend in with the henchmen, so it is very thematic. However, defending against a villain's "special" or possibly even turning it against the villain is more central to the character of Doc Savage. The disguises are just one of his tools.

@jc- I'd like Doc to be a stand-alone hero. He was a leader and did inspire his group, but more often than not, Doc ended up working on his own as his "Fab Five" were frequently captured by the villain's forces. I may eventually create some cards for his assistants. Each of them would have some sort of bonding with each other and Doc.

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Stand alone works for me. Maybe this to represent his intelect.

SUPERIOR INTELLECT
When rolling initiative, if there is at least one order marker on this army card you may add 1 to your initiative roll

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I'm a dork.

When I read that I thought, "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if you added 1 to your initiative roll for each revealed OM on Doc's card!"
:wtf:

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I would add 3 to initiative, like Mogrim.

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The initiative bonus is good, but with Doc, it seemed more thematic that if active, he would increase your odds of success at any time during the game.

The original draft also had a SUPERMACHINE PISTOL SA. After thinking about it, I decided that would be a better ability for one of his assistants. Doc did use the weapon, but he was more often involved in hand-to-hand combat. I gave him Range so that he can use the gun, but bonus dice against adjacent opponents.

BRONZE WHIRLWIND and BRONZE GHOST are good representations of Doc's fighting skills. He could engage multiple foes and with his physical strength and knowledge of martial arts and other fighting skills, he was especially dangerous in hand-to-hand combat. Also, Doc moved with such skill and agility that ranged opponent's had extreme difficulty in drawing a bead and those up close and personal would take a swing only to find themselves flailing at air.

I know with this combination of abilities, Doc's cost will be on the high side, but with all his skills and knowledge, he's basically a superhero without the big Marvel or DC contract (though DC did have a series featuring Doc recently).

Edit: already made a change. One Step Ahead now requires 2 OMs so that you can't just put the X on Doc to get the bonus.

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Okay. The only problem I see with him, at the moment, is that he's more powerful that Q9. Much so. He seems almost to be a one-man army sort of figure, due to him being good at everything.

The only weakness I really see in him is that he is kind of vulnerable to a mass SA like the Romans' Volley and the Zombies' SA, but he can take them out before they get in position.

Edit: Saw the line about being a superhero. Although I see your point, we are testing the project against classic 'scape, not marvelscape.

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The numbers on By Their Own Device should be a lot tighter, like 16-19. Perhaps allowing him to attack different figures only, like the Quasatch Hunters, would help as well.

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For the comparison to the Quasatch, you are looking for something more like this?
I could see raising the roll a bit on By Their Own Device, but not all the way to 16. That would put upward pressure on Doc's defense. At 3, it is well balanced with the Stealth Dodge/Defensive Agility hybrid of Bronze Ghost. At 4, Bronze Ghost becomes too powerful, IMO. Assuming Doc would have an OM and get +2 to d20 rolls, I could see it at 13 or maybe 14, but not higher. Keep in mind, BTOD only affects the SAs that cause wounds. It would not affect auto-destroy abilities like Poisonous Acid Breath, Chomp, or Trample Stomp.

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I like the change to Bronze Whirlwind. Also, a bump to 13 might be an OK thing. Like you said, it only works against SAs that cause wounds so it is an easy ability for an opponent to by-pass.

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The only caution I have about By Their Own Device is the high number of Special Attacks that have come out since the D&D waves. They are more prevalent than they used to be. But I can see 16 being too high.

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I've updated the cards using the Hi-Res templates. Here's a link to the Photobucket Album. I'll update the Display Thread as time permits.

Update notes:
-New artwork for Ash Williams and Indiana Jones.
-New hit zone for the Bear
-Revised text on the Rabbit of Caerbannog using the "Hulk" style. "The Rabbit of Caerbannog" is used the first time the figure is named in an ability. All other mentions simply use "the Rabbit". It takes a few words off the card.

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Love the new artwork mac :thumbsup: