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spiteofthedice December 18th, 2009 07:02 PM

The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
Master Set III - Battle for the Underdark
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Character Bio: TBA

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-Rulings and Clarifications-
Target Point : Where'd Everybody Go?
Q. It seems some of the Othkurik sculpts' heads are ducked beneath their wings. Doesn't that make targeting a problem?
A. FAQ 11.3 : ERRATA: Othkurik can use his neck spikes as a secondary Target Point.
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Synergy Benefits Received
- GREENSCALE WARRIORS : As a Unique, Large Dragon Hero, Othkurik may be chosen as to benefit from the Greenscale Warriors' LIZARD KING BONDING Activation Synergy.
Synergy Benefits Offered
- GREENSCALE WARRIORS : As a Unique, Large Dragon Hero, if selected as the Greenscale Warriors "Lizard King," Othkurik may aid the Greenscale Warriors with their LOYALTY TO THE LIZARD KING Attack and Defense Enhancements.

- OTONASHI : Tricky Speed 4:
As a unit with a Tricky personality, Othkurik may enable Otonashi's TRICKY SPEED 4.
Terrain Benefits Received
- SWAMP WATER HEXES : LURKING AMBUSH
- SHADOW HEXES : LURKING AMBUSH
C3V and SoV Custom Synergies
Spoiler Alert!
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-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
TBA
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-Heroscapers Community Contributions-
Othkurik the Black Dragon Pre-Release Discussion Thread

Power Ranking and Master Index


Unit Strategy Review
TBA

spiteofthedice December 19th, 2009 10:13 AM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Not to be a tool, but in fairness to Rev Bookman, I'm going to just ask that the general comments stay in the reaction thread. The Book is meant for rules-clarification purposes and strategy discussions.

~Spite, who would just like to add that he is a champion, my friends, and will keep on fighting til the end, because Rev will unfortunately have to delete this post eventually anyway.

Revdyer December 19th, 2009 08:45 PM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
(This message, too, will be deleted)

Thanks, spite. I am not seeing any proof of proxy play testing in these comments, so, sooner or later, they are likely to be deleted.

Taeblewalker December 19th, 2009 08:47 PM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Edit: Ignore! I didn't realize that faction-wide synergies don't go here - I really need to read the books more carefully.

:oops:


Don't forget Ornak's Red Flag of Fury Aura. Othkurik is a unique hero who follows Utgar.

Vilsara December 20th, 2009 08:46 AM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Yay, my message got deleted! :D

Anyway, I DO have a small overview of Othkurik;

I sort of realized in observation that he's the sort of unit that you would build an army around as opposed to providing filler. He's sort of a mid-game predator... too fragile to be taken out in the heat of battle, but doesn't provide the best cleanup because of single attacks and situational Special Attack.

However, if you can provide a good screen (Rats, preferably) and another unit to tie squads up for a while (I smell Izumi), then you'll have a lot of chances to sneak up and inflict some impressive damage on unsuspecting heroes.

Ironically, Othkurik looks to play well with Tandros Kreel, since he looks to be a very good staller (setting aside Charos, since that would be far too expensive).

Otherwise, you're left with about 320 points with Rats x3, Izumi, and Othkurik, so even on boards without Shadow or Swamp, he might perform pretty well- but again, with proper support.

Warlord Alpha December 20th, 2009 10:14 AM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilsara (Post 977565)

I sort of realized in observation that he's the sort of unit that you would build an army around as opposed to providing filler...

...

However, if you can provide a good screen (Rats, preferably)]...

Actually, you have given me a great idea!

What if you used rats to "bridge the gap" between figures? As in, your opponent might spread his figures out to avoid Acid Spray. So, get rats to plug the holes and then target the rats. Sure you will lose a rat here and there and it won't activate scatter (for two reasons), but if you are using 4x rats that won't matter much.

Othkurik - 140
4x Rats - 160 (300)
Something else - 200 (500)

And all the things you could do with those last 200 points! Imagine this:

Othkurik - 140
4x Rats - 160 (300)
Q9 - 180 (480)
Filler - 20 (500)

That would just be cruel, especially on the right maps.

Rich10 December 20th, 2009 11:02 AM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
I assume that Lurking Ambush does not work with Acid Spray Special Attack. If it did, it would give the ability to attack 3 figures with 7 dice. I realize that special attacks generally don't get bonuses, but Lurking Ambush says, "add 3 to his Attack value." It doesn't specify normal attack. Could we get a clarification on this?

Warlord Alpha December 20th, 2009 11:05 AM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich10 (Post 977634)
I assume that Lurking Ambush does not work with Acid Spray Special Attack. If it did, it would give the ability to attack 3 figures with 7 dice. I realize that special attacks generally don't get bonuses, but Lurking Ambush says, "add 3 to his Attack value." It doesn't specify normal attack. Could we get a clarification on this?

I really doubt it would modify his special attack.

Although I do find it interesting that it says "attack value" (I don't think I have seen that on any other cards thus far, correct me if I am wrong), I believe that it only modifies his base attack.

I think it would say that it modifies the special attack as well as the base attack if that was the case.

Frylock December 20th, 2009 11:10 AM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Why not some 'trons?

Othkurik
2x Blasts
3x Glads

Taeblewalker December 20th, 2009 11:34 AM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Warlord Alpha (Post 977637)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich10 (Post 977634)
I assume that Lurking Ambush does not work with Acid Spray Special Attack. If it did, it would give the ability to attack 3 figures with 7 dice. I realize that special attacks generally don't get bonuses, but Lurking Ambush says, "add 3 to his Attack value." It doesn't specify normal attack. Could we get a clarification on this?

I really doubt it would modify his special attack.

Although I do find it interesting that it says "attack value" (I don't think I have seen that on any other cards thus far, correct me if I am wrong), I believe that it only modifies his base attack.

I think it would say that it modifies the special attack as well as the base attack if that was the case.

Special Attacks are never modified.
Special Attacks are never modified.
Special Attacks are never modified.
Repeat.

Edit: I don't presume to imply that I have as much insight into the rules as the designers/playtesters, but :gb: and others have told us this repeatedly.

Heroscape Elffy December 20th, 2009 05:18 PM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frylock (Post 977641)
Why not some 'trons?

Othkurik
2x Blasts
3x Glads

I don't see trons as helping much. The Blasts use the Glads as Attack Boosters and Clampers so they don't get attacked. If you're using them as "Gap Fillers" as Warlord Alpha said, I'd say it's a waste of points. If you're using Othkurik as late game clean-up, or the Glads as protection for Othkurik (Maybe clamping guys in groups?) then it'd be better.

Frylock December 20th, 2009 07:03 PM

Re: The Book of Othkurik the Black Dragon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heroscape Elffy (Post 977801)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frylock (Post 977641)
Why not some 'trons?

Othkurik
2x Blasts
3x Glads

I don't see trons as helping much. The Blasts use the Glads as Attack Boosters and Clampers so they don't get attacked. If you're using them as "Gap Fillers" as Warlord Alpha said, I'd say it's a waste of points. If you're using Othkurik as late game clean-up, or the Glads as protection for Othkurik (Maybe clamping guys in groups?) then it'd be better.

That was my plan, yes. I shoulda been more clear.


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