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Pumpkin_King
May 20th, 2019, 09:23 PM
WHAT IS ARENA OF THE VALKYRIE?

Arena of the Valkyrie is a community driven effort to create a new Master Set that is compatible with both Classic Heroscape and VC (C3V and SoV) customs.


We will be using figures and materials from all three Arena of the Planeswalkers sets (Arena of the Planswalkers, Battle for Zendikar, and Shadows over Innistrad). Not all the figures will be used at first, but the figures we’ve accepted for use in project will number 24 units, both heroes and squads.


The Master Set will eventually feature maps, scenarios, and other features you’d expect from a master set. A rule book PDF will be released alongside all unit cards.


MISSION STATEMENT AND GOALS


1. To be compatible with Classic/Official Heroscape, and completely VC-compliant: that is, designing with C3V and SoV figures in mind, and focusing on the AOTP figures that would be acceptable to SoV (figures that are pre-painted or usable without paint).


2. To provide an affordable and user-friendly entry point to both new and returning players, that captures the feel of a true Master Set.


3. To create balanced units that are relatively simple, easy to understand, and feel at home in a self-contained set together. Units will come from a wide range of themes, and capture the diversity of theme Heroscape is beloved for.


HOW CAN I HELP?

1. VOTE! Keep an eye on threads that have public votes, and participate. Soon, we'll have a new "Pod" open (a series of units to be designed) and we'll need help deciding which units go into what pod. Additionally, soon we'll have a poll up for the public to decide on Project Leads - heroscapers that will help guide the Pods. Join the Public Voting Thread! (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=169)



2. Volunteer for a pod. We'll need help with design and ideas when the units come up for that phase! Come join the Brainstorming thread! (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55784)



3. PLAYTEST! This is the big one. We'll need all the help we can get in playtesting. Any time you can contribute will be very much needed. You can find the playtesting thread here. (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=56342)


Here's the official development process for the project, so that everyone can see the steps:

Each Pod is expected to have 5 volunteers from the community and 2 assigned Pod Leaders to help guide the group.

1. DESIGN PHASE:
Pod members contribute ideas and settle on a design. One of the two Pod Leaders can begin a vote to move forwards to the Editing Phase. All members of the pod can vote, and a majority vote is needed to move forwards (in the case of inactivity of one or more members, it is up to the Pod Leaders' discretion for when to call a vote closed after a reasonable amount of time has passed).

2. PUBLIC FEEDBACK PHASE:
Once a pod is satisfied with the design of the unit and has voted to move it forward, the thread will enter a state of public review. For 1 week, outside feedback is openly encouraged on the unit. Anyone is welcome to leave their thoughts on the unit, even people not regularly involved in the project (we'd love to hear from everyone!). The pod is not under any obligations to make changes to the unit, but public feedback can be useful to know how people are feeling overall. Once the week is up, the unit will return to Design so that the Pod Members can discuss any changes that they want to make. Like before, a Pod Leader can start a vote to move forward, but this time to Editing.

3. EDITING PHASE:
The editing checklist is run for the unit, and any potential issues are identified and brought up. The pod must either resolve substantial issues and pass the Editing check, or return to the Design Phase if the issues are too deeply routed to be fixed.

Once a unit passes the Editing Checklist, it can move immediately onward to the Balance Testing Phase.

4. BALANCE TESTING PHASE:
After the unit successfully passes the Editing checklist, it is opened for official playtesting. All pod members will run playtests for the unit (outside members are also encouraged to run playtests), prioritizing its individual balance.

Once the two Pod Leaders are satisfied with the balance of the unit and a reasonable number of playtests have been run, they can propose a vote to move the unit forward to Compatibility Testing. Once again, a majority vote is needed by the official members of that pod to move forward.

5. COMPATIBILITY TESTING PHASE:
Similar to the Balance Testing Phase, this stage focuses on collecting playtests, but prioritizes the Arena of the Valkyrie Master Set as a whole. This would also be a good time to run scenarios from AotV once they are available, and to just generally ensure that the set is fun to play on its own. As such, running tests with other units that we've finalized is important here.

Because we're not trying to ensure complete balance so much as that our set feels great as a whole, testing here is less intensive than the Balance Testing Phase. It's important nonetheless, however, because if our box doesn't feel fun to play together, then it won't be a satisfying release.

Once the pod is satisfied with the unit's place in Arena of the Valkyrie, they can vote to move forward to the final review. A majority vote is needed from the pod members before leaving Compatibility Testing.

6. FINAL REVIEW:
This is where all of the Pod Leaders (not just the ones assigned to that pod) will vote on whether the design should join AotV, looking at the unit on its own as well as its place within the set as a whole. A majority vote of all Pod Leaders is needed to pass Final Review, or the vote can be called if a full week of inactivity on it passes. Once a design is officially approved, it will move forwards to the Art Phase for its card to be created.

7. ART PHASE:
Once a unit enters the Art Phase, the design should be completely finalized and ready for release. Once the card is made, it will be reviewed by the Pod Leaders for any errors or typos. After all of these are fixed, one last vote will be made to officially release the unit.

Once a unit has been officially released, no further changes to the design will be made. Congratulations: the unit has successfully made it into AotV!

Pumpkin_King
May 20th, 2019, 09:25 PM
WHAT UNITS ARE YOU USING FOR AOTV?


So far, as of 5/21/19



>Arlinn Kord, Goldnight Outcast :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019486931058847/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Arlinn Kord, Moon-Blessed :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567021389119225857/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Avacyn, on Bloodied Wings :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567020176843866252/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Blazing Firecats (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=2289540) (squad of 3) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567020053908815922/image0.jpg?width=400&height=300)
>Blighted Reavers (squad of 3) :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567023872801636365/image0.jpg?width=400&height=300)
>Chandra Nalaar, Pyromancer (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55874) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019625385033729/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Crypolith (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55800) x3 (Destructible Object) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/577338124737183764/image0.jpg?width=401&height=281)
>Eldrazi Ruiner (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55794) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019947713101854/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Eldrazi Scions (squad of 3) :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567021614206812160/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Flamewing Phoenixes (squad of 3) :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567020457837068410/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Ghoul Vanguard (squad of 4, combined with Restless Zombies) :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567020717841842226/image0.jpg?width=400&height=300)
>Gideon Jura, Combat Mage (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55873) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019089982259239/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Glyph of Knowledge (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=2280454#post2280454) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/577338123965562890/image1.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Glyph of Recall (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?p=2280455#post2280455) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/577338125211402241/image2.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Illusionary Projections (squad of 3) :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567021058926837772/image0.jpg?width=400&height=300)
>Jace, Investigator (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55796) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019386330939398/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Jace Beleren, Mindmage :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567020906090725387/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Kiora, the Rising Tide (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=57233) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019169485422592/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Lantern Geists (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55797) (squad of 2) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567021470937645066/image0.jpg?width=400&height=300)
>Leyline Phantoms (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55798) (squad of 3) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567021153571569664/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Liliana Vess, Necromancer :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567021858952839184/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Merfolk Roilmage :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567021268763672606/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Nahiri, Fury in Stone (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=57226) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019268869324833/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Nissa Revane, Animist :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019704217239578/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Ob Nixilis, Demon of Spite (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=55872) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567020547544711179/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)
>Restless Zombies (squad of 4, combined with Ghoul Vanguard) :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567020717841842226/image0.jpg?width=400&height=300)
>Rhox Veterans (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=57232) (squad of 3) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567020339977257010/image0.jpg?width=400&height=300)
>Sorin of the Eternal Thirst (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=57225) :skull: :!: (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/567009548041453579/567019875004842004/image0.jpg?width=226&height=301)

:skull: - Claimed by a Pod
:shield: - Completed
:!: - Link to an Image


HOW CAN I HELP WORK ON BATTLEFIELDS AND SCENARIOS?


We aren’t starting on those yet, but we will be soon! PM either flameslayer93 or Astroking112 and they will add you to the list of folks who want to help when that time comes.

WHO CAN COMMENT ON POD THREADS?


Anyone can comment, but we ask that you focus on your own Pod first! Or, if you aren’t in a Pod, try to join an upcomming Pod!

flameslayer93
May 23rd, 2019, 01:17 PM
Some “backroom” procedures we’ve cooked up to help preserve the integrity and momentum of the project.

>What are “Pods”, “Project Leads”, “Pod Leaders”, “Pod Members?
Pods are what we are calling individual groups who are dedicated to design and test a select few units, normally 4. Pods are numbered 0-5* with Pod 0 working on glyphs and crypoliths as well.
Project Leads are a few high standing members who have decided to help carry this project forward in one way or another, and have the responsibility to make sure the project doesn’t get too carried away.
Pod Leaders are the 2 Project Leads chosen by the public to lead a specific Pod. They have the responsibility to make and update OP’s, initiate votes within the pod, etc.
Pod Members are the collective members of the Pod they are working in. They’ll have final say over their unit designs.

>What happens if a Pod is abandoned?
The Pod Leaders (or Project Leads in general), will make note that a pod has died. After Pod 0 is complete, the Project Leads will continue on a downed pod, attempting to pick up where it had been left. The original members are free to return to help out, because we understand that life happens. Not all Project Leads have to work on the same Pod, because we may still be involved in our own pods. However, we will only collectively work on one Pod at a time to minimize overextending ourselves.

>What will the Playtesting Requirements for a Unit be?
For General Testing, we suggest a minimum of 10 playtests. For minor revisions, add 5 tests. For AotV-Inclusive Testing it will likely be about 3-5 tests per unit. Glyphs will likely be the same way.

>Are Pod Members immune to the boot?
No, the Project Leads reserve the right to ask a member to leave the project. This will *only* be done for abusive behavior, either to other people (which is already frowned upon by the administration) or for abusing the threads. This will be a case by case basis however.

>I’m ready for the next Pod! Can I join again?
YES! If your Pod is done designing your 4 units, you are more than welcome to join the next Pod.

>Looks like the Pod’s units are done, what’s next?
More than likely some type of vote will occur with the Leads and Volunteers to determine if the unit is balanced. This will not be to workshop the unit though. The Project Leads are still discussing the best way to pre-final vote a unit in. After that is AotV-Inclusive Testing. Most likely only a minor point revision would be suggested if any at all.

>Can I get the full details on what’s being used and done for the project?
Right here (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showpost.php?p=2281953&postcount=40). It’s a bit of a wall of text however.

>I have more questions! Can I ask them here?
Please do! We’ll be happy to answer any questions you may have.

capsocrates
May 26th, 2019, 06:00 PM
There are several terms mentioned in the third post here that are not defined anywhere in this thread.

Shouldn't this thread be stickied?

Pumpkin_King
May 26th, 2019, 06:14 PM
There are several terms mentioned in the third post here that are not defined anywhere in this thread.

flameslayer93 do you want to help me work on that?


superfrog can we get this thread stickied?

superfrog
May 28th, 2019, 12:46 PM
Stickied.

flameslayer93
June 19th, 2019, 02:55 PM
:bump:

With the recent site shutdown things got stalled. Let’s get back on the saddle gang!

Astroking112
August 20th, 2019, 03:19 PM
Here's the official development process for the project, so that everyone can see the steps:

Each Pod is expected to have 5 volunteers from the community and 2 assigned Pod Leaders to help guide the group.

1. DESIGN PHASE:
Pod members contribute ideas and settle on a design. One of the two Pod Leaders can begin a vote to move forwards to the Editing Phase. All members of the pod can vote, and a majority vote is needed to move forwards (in the case of inactivity of one or more members, it is up to the Pod Leaders' discretion for when to call a vote closed after a reasonable amount of time has passed).

2. PUBLIC FEEDBACK PHASE:
Once a pod is satisfied with the design of the unit and has voted to move it forward, the thread will enter a state of public review. For 1 week, outside feedback is openly encouraged on the unit. Anyone is welcome to leave their thoughts on the unit, even people not regularly involved in the project (we'd love to hear from everyone!). The pod is not under any obligations to make changes to the unit, but public feedback can be useful to know how people are feeling overall. Once the week is up, the unit will return to Design so that the Pod Members can discuss any changes that they want to make. Like before, a Pod Leader can start a vote to move forward, but this time to Editing.

3. EDITING PHASE:
The editing checklist is run for the unit, and any potential issues are identified and brought up. The pod must either resolve substantial issues and pass the Editing check, or return to the Design Phase if the issues are too deeply routed to be fixed.

Once a unit passes the Editing Checklist, it can move immediately onward to the Balance Testing Phase.

4. BALANCE TESTING PHASE:
After the unit successfully passes the Editing checklist, it is opened for official playtesting. All pod members will run playtests for the unit (outside members are also encouraged to run playtests), prioritizing its individual balance.

Once the two Pod Leaders are satisfied with the balance of the unit and a reasonable number of playtests have been run, they can propose a vote to move the unit forward to Compatibility Testing. Once again, a majority vote is needed by the official members of that pod to move forward.

5. COMPATIBILITY TESTING PHASE:
Similar to the Balance Testing Phase, this stage focuses on collecting playtests, but prioritizes the Arena of the Valkyrie Master Set as a whole. This would also be a good time to run scenarios from AotV once they are available, and to just generally ensure that the set is fun to play on its own. As such, running tests with other units that we've finalized is important here.

Because we're not trying to ensure complete balance so much as that our set feels great as a whole, testing here is less intensive than the Balance Testing Phase. It's important nonetheless, however, because if our box doesn't feel fun to play together, then it won't be a satisfying release.

Once the pod is satisfied with the unit's place in Arena of the Valkyrie, they can vote to move forward to the final review. A majority vote is needed from the pod members before leaving Compatibility Testing.

6. FINAL REVIEW:
This is where all of the Pod Leaders (not just the ones assigned to that pod) will vote on whether the design should join AotV, looking at the unit on its own as well as its place within the set as a whole. A majority vote of all Pod Leaders is needed to pass Final Review, or the vote can be called if a full week of inactivity on it passes. Once a design is officially approved, it will move forwards to the Art Phase for its card to be created.

7. ART PHASE:
Once a unit enters the Art Phase, the design should be completely finalized and ready for release. Once the card is made, it will be reviewed by the Pod Leaders for any errors or typos. After all of these are fixed, one last vote will be made to officially release the unit.

Once a unit has been officially released, no further changes to the design will be made. Congratulations: the unit has successfully made it into AotV!

kevindola
December 7th, 2019, 01:44 PM
If anyone is willing to do some 1:1 playtesting exchanges with me for VC units in PT, send me a PM

Pumpkin_King
December 7th, 2019, 04:18 PM
Thanks KD! Hopefully someone bites. I wish I had my figures with me.

Astroking112
February 4th, 2020, 12:47 AM
Pumpkin_King, do you mind adding a link to the Playtesting Thread (https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=56342) to the OP under the "How Can I Help?" section?

Pumpkin_King
February 4th, 2020, 12:51 AM
Done.

Pumpkin_King
April 8th, 2020, 08:11 PM
Updated the figure list for pod 1.

Astroking112
October 1st, 2020, 06:45 PM
Pumpkin_King, I've updated the official process with the Public Feedback Phase after the conversation and vote in the general discussion thread. Do you mind updating the OP here as well?

Here's the official development process for the project, so that everyone can see the steps:

Each Pod is expected to have 5 volunteers from the community and 2 assigned Pod Leaders to help guide the group.

1. DESIGN PHASE:
Pod members contribute ideas and settle on a design. One of the two Pod Leaders can begin a vote to move forwards to the Editing Phase. All members of the pod can vote, and a majority vote is needed to move forwards (in the case of inactivity of one or more members, it is up to the Pod Leaders' discretion for when to call a vote closed after a reasonable amount of time has passed).

2. PUBLIC FEEDBACK PHASE:
Once a pod is satisfied with the design of the unit and has voted to move it forward, the thread will enter a state of public review. For 1 week, outside feedback is openly encouraged on the unit. Anyone is welcome to leave their thoughts on the unit, even people not regularly involved in the project (we'd love to hear from everyone!). The pod is not under any obligations to make changes to the unit, but public feedback can be useful to know how people are feeling overall. Once the week is up, the unit will return to Design so that the Pod Members can discuss any changes that they want to make. Like before, a Pod Leader can start a vote to move forward, but this time to Editing.

3. EDITING PHASE:
The editing checklist is run for the unit, and any potential issues are identified and brought up. The pod must either resolve substantial issues and pass the Editing check, or return to the Design Phase if the issues are too deeply routed to be fixed.

Once a unit passes the Editing Checklist, it can move immediately onward to the Balance Testing Phase.

4. BALANCE TESTING PHASE:
After the unit successfully passes the Editing checklist, it is opened for official playtesting. All pod members will run playtests for the unit (outside members are also encouraged to run playtests), prioritizing its individual balance.

Once the two Pod Leaders are satisfied with the balance of the unit and a reasonable number of playtests have been run, they can propose a vote to move the unit forward to Compatibility Testing. Once again, a majority vote is needed by the official members of that pod to move forward.

5. COMPATIBILITY TESTING PHASE:
Similar to the Balance Testing Phase, this stage focuses on collecting playtests, but prioritizes the Arena of the Valkyrie Master Set as a whole. This would also be a good time to run scenarios from AotV once they are available, and to just generally ensure that the set is fun to play on its own. As such, running tests with other units that we've finalized is important here.

Because we're not trying to ensure complete balance so much as that our set feels great as a whole, testing here is less intensive than the Balance Testing Phase. It's important nonetheless, however, because if our box doesn't feel fun to play together, then it won't be a satisfying release.

Once the pod is satisfied with the unit's place in Arena of the Valkyrie, they can vote to move forward to the final review. A majority vote is needed from the pod members before leaving Compatibility Testing.

6. FINAL REVIEW:
This is where all of the Pod Leaders (not just the ones assigned to that pod) will vote on whether the design should join AotV, looking at the unit on its own as well as its place within the set as a whole. A majority vote of all Pod Leaders is needed to pass Final Review, or the vote can be called if a full week of inactivity on it passes. Once a design is officially approved, it will move forwards to the Art Phase for its card to be created.

7. ART PHASE:
Once a unit enters the Art Phase, the design should be completely finalized and ready for release. Once the card is made, it will be reviewed by the Pod Leaders for any errors or typos. After all of these are fixed, one last vote will be made to officially release the unit.

Once a unit has been officially released, no further changes to the design will be made. Congratulations: the unit has successfully made it into AotV!

Pumpkin_King
October 4th, 2020, 03:51 PM
Done!

Pumpkin_King
October 14th, 2020, 03:00 PM
2nd post is updated with all units through pod 2.