The Book of Arrow Gruts

[nyys]

Originally Posted by Jexik

I know it can be said of everything, but Raelin definitely helps the swogs and arrow gruts stick around more.

Still a good point though Jexik, especially with the Gruts. Raelin with Minions for example is simply overkill, and possibly a waste.

[rednax]

Originally Posted by NecroBlade

Somewhere in here, I believe, is that exact idea. I liked it when I first saw it then, too.

Thanks. The post is here.

However, I was looking for something like this:

Fire Arrow Gruts
Orcs
Common Squad
Archers
Medium 4
70 points
3 figures


Move 5
Range 6
Attack 2
Defense 2

Beast Bonding
Before taking a turn with the Fire Arrow Gruts, you may first take a turn with any beast you control.

Disengage
Fire Arrow Gruts are never attacked when leaving an engagement.

[rednax]

I'm trying to figure out how to use these guys effectively. In the past my strategy has always been focus on setting up the Swog/Arrow Pod and then bringing in Mimring, and then have Krug for cleanup.

What about this strategy instead?

Send in the Arrow Gruts with Mimring, and get the Arrow Gruts in place while Mimring creates a diversion. Then, when the time is right send in a swog or two to help the Arrows, then save Krug for cleanup.

I'm also curious what figures are good glyph grabbers in this army? The Arrows are very frail, so they don't hold glyphs well. I thought about the swogs, but you typically don't have many swogs in your army.

~Rednax

[Killometer]

Originally Posted by rednax

Send in the Arrow Gruts with Mimring, and get the Arrow Gruts in place while Mimring creates a diversion. Then, when the time is right send in a swog or two to help the Arrows, then save Krug for cleanup.

The last couple time s he's played this army, my brother has ripped me apart with this strategy (of course always rolling at least 3 skulls with Fireline helps )

I'm also curious what figures are good glyph grabbers in this army? The Arrows are very frail, so they don't hold glyphs well. I thought about the swogs, but you typically don't have many swogs in your army.

Mebbe Krug? He's slow, but thanks to Bonding it doesn't cost any OMs to move him, and once you get him parked on a Glyph he can pretty much lock in there-if your opponent tries to attack him to drive him off it will only make him stronger.

[aquamaniac27]

Originally Posted by rednax

Thanks. The post is here.

However, I was looking for something like this:

Fire Arrow Gruts
Orcs
Common Squad
Archers
Medium 4
70 points
3 figures


Move 5
Range 6
Attack 2
Defense 2

Beast Bonding
Before taking a turn with the Fire Arrow Gruts, you may first take a turn with any beast you control.

Disengage
Fire Arrow Gruts are never attacked when leaving an engagement.

That's how I pictured them. Although, if swords turn into spears, I believe that bows turn into crossbows... (Now I just need my pa-terodactyl riding orc champion!)

I feel like when I play with the Arrow Gruts, its a hit-or-miss army... I usually back up my arrow pod with Nerak (thank you W10!), and usually gives the cheap(er than raelin) themed unit.

[rednax]

Originally Posted by Killometer

The last couple time s he's played this army, my brother has ripped me apart with this strategy (of course always rolling at least 3 skulls with Fireline helps )

Most of the times it takes the Swog Rider only one or two order markers to get into position anyways, where as it takes the AG's two or three. Not to mention, that the Arrow Gruts can sort of get in the way of the Swog Rider, as they're moving up.

Mebbe Krug? He's slow, but thanks to Bonding it doesn't cost any OMs to move him, and once you get him parked on a Glyph he can pretty much lock in there-if your opponent tries to attack him to drive him off it will only make him stronger.

Krug is a good idea. While Mimring's taking care of business, you might as well have Krug sitting on a glyph (preferably a strong one), rather than just sitting in your start zone.

~Rednax

[Overlord Hikash]

Had a 1,000 point Grut army last time we played. I got a unit of Arrow Gruts onto a hillside with Swog riders in front and behind. They completely controlled that road section. The Knights of Weston who continually tried to move forward got shredded.

All was fine and good until Captain America busted his shield all over their faces. Easily one of the best (and cheapest) squads out there. Fragile if used improperly, deadly when used to their potential.

[ladidadi.davis]

I used a single squad of these guys alongside Krug in a 1000 point Utgar hero army (Ornak shenanigans and all that). For funsies I drafted Taelord too (who actually proved to be quite the star play that game). I got Taelord in position early and then moved Syvarris up so he was within 4 spaces of Taelord and in range of my friend's starting zone. Needless to say, that quickly became a very happening place on the battle field.

I brought my archers up while Krug went to the other side of the battle field to meet up with his advancing Deathwalkers and Zettians (It was getting pretty crowded around Taelord anyway). So the gruts came in gaining a Taelord boost and two of them grabbing height. They put a wound or two on Su-Bak-Na and killed a stinger or two.

Moral of the story is that I learned just how mobile these guys are. Disengage never came into play, but it's still handy. But their move of six got them into range of the fray quickly and were able to do a bit of damage.

[Anihalac]

I definitely agree, though i have an all orc army anyway. i've got two sets of these guys.

[capsocrates]

Originally Posted by Anihalac

I definitely agree, though i have an all orc army anyway. i've got two sets of these guys.

FYI, it is something along the lines of "impolite" to post in a thread that has not been recently active unless you have something significant to add to the conversation. "I agree" is not usually considered significant.