Einar Imperium Question

[Euryon]

We havent seen a 2-person squad since the Master Set, and with the very cool powerfulness of the Imperium, I'm considering playing them as a down-priced 2-person squad. They still get 4 attacks, plus Kiova's defence boost (and Marcus' movement if necessary).

Just wondering if I'm alone in this sentiment. Each figure is worth 47ish points, but making them a 95 point squad doesnt feel sensible.

90, 95 or 100? Which would people recommend? (whether you agree with the 2-man idea or not)

I may re-do their card for my own use if they play "well" like this.
Its just an idea, I dont consider them broken or over/underpowered/costed at all; but I like 2-person squads, and feel as the most costly squad with the most guarenteed attacks, a figure reduction might make them a tad more exciting (kinda).

[K/H_Addict]

I like the 3 fig squad. I do agree that we need some more 2 fig squads, but not Kyries. Maybe more soulborgs in 2 fig squads, or perhaps some more ranged samurai, or even a squad of ranged Kyrie could be done in 2 fig squad form. Leave the melee squds alone though.

[GaryLASQ]

this idea isn't half bad. i get annoyed with common squads priced over 100 points. and since this squad has a double attack for each fig, making them a squad of 2 is fine since 2 act more like 4. then 2 squads doesn't take as big a hit on total points.

[johnny139]

Not a good idea, but only because I'm a stickler for consistant cycles.

[GaryLASQ]

by consistent cycles do you mean because Minions and Sentinels are also 3 figure squads?

you know, Minions would have been better at 2 figs for 75 or 80. then the packaging with Drones would have been better balanced point wise. (and Hasbro would have made more money on it. )

[Ketch]

I don't think that's a bad idea.
I wonder why they don't make two person squads anymore.

One thing I do know is that your poll is pointless!

[imppious]

Just Round them down to 45 points each. Do the same thing with all your squads, Seperate them into indiviadual unit costs. You could then make mix and match squads. For 110 points you could have a squad consisting of 2 imperiums and 2 blade gruts. kinda crazy but it would mix things up a bit.

[Euryon]

Could do that, but the EI are the first squad ive felt could truly work as a 2-person squad. Theyre quite mobile, pretty tough (especially with kiova), and 4 attacks is darned good - not quite as good as 6, but there would be a points save, of course.

Besides, id want to make the card and print it, and dont wanna do that for each and every squad out there.

[toddrew]

Not a bad idea...a good idea I agree with your assessment of them being a good candidate for a 2 member squad with the double attack, and also GaryLASQ's mild annoyance at common squads over 100 points

90 points sounds right, maybe even lower. The 140 points shouldn't be part of a linear relationship to the # of squad members. Being able to activate 3 instead of 2 should be worth something as well, maybe 20 points, so pricing them at 80 might be reasonable.

[Grungebob]

Here's an idea!! Speedsacape!! All squads are reduced by one figure. All Heroes life points are reduced by 1/3rd. Game is over in 2/3rds the amount of time!!

[playa1]

Originally Posted by imppious

Just Round them down to 45 points each. Do the same thing with all your squads, Seperate them into indiviadual unit costs. You could then make mix and match squads. For 110 points you could have a squad consisting of 2 imperiums and 2 blade gruts. kinda crazy but it would mix things up a bit.

This may seem logical, but you have to consider the squad size in formulating point value: I mean, when you place an order marker on a 2 squad minion, you get only 2 attacks. This should lower the point cost more than reducing the 110 points by 1/3. Therefore having 3 2-squad figures would still not be worth as much as 2 3-squad figures of the exact same type. Getting 2 instead of 3 attacks each turn makes a big difference. They must include the squad size when calculating total cost. This is why most large point figures have the ability to attack multiple times (Jotun, Q9, Braxas, Nilfheim, and even Mimring). They would not be worth much if they could only attack one figure each turn. (this is also why Spartacus is almost worthless and will get his butt kicked by any three squads -- even arrow gruts. All those attacks verses his one each turn make him useless).