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Old May 26th, 2006, 03:10 PM
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I won ! (...but I'm so disappointed...)

I won ! (...but I'm so disappointed... )

Hello all!

Ever happened to you? You won a game but would have prefered it to end differently?

I do not play as often as I would like to so I cherish the occasions I have. I was playing the other day with my 8 years old boy. After one hour of game setup (45 minutes to build a map, another 15 for drafting) we started the game.

He had: 2xOrcs, Krug, Grimnak, Tornak
I had: Airborn Elite and... well the rest is unimportant for my story.

Here it goes:
I roll for the AE and make the Drop. So, I boldly place all my AE near his starting zone
We place our order markers.
We roll initiative and (you saw it coming) I get it

My first marker is of course on the AE. I throw the hand grenades in his crowded starting zone

Result : 5 Orcs down, Tornak chopped to pieces, 3 wounds on Krug and one on Grimnak!

Collateral damage: my son leaving the room sobbing

Hummmmph!

Anything similar happened to you?


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Old May 26th, 2006, 03:14 PM
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yeah, yesterday me and some friends were playing 3v3. We each had about 3 units, and the first thing one of the opponents did was step on the massive curse glyph. They then proceeded to each roll badly once and lose a guy, (they claim their best guys). My team lost no one.
So then the rest of the game was them losing and complaining about it : /


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Old May 26th, 2006, 03:21 PM
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I feel your pain. My 9 year old has the greatest swing in luck. Sometimes he rolls great every time he picks up the dice and other times he only rolls blanks. I am sure to explain strategy with him constantly even to the point of telling him the best way to defeat me. Win or lose he learns something and looks forward to the next game.

Specific to your situation I would have warned my son about placing any of his figures adjacent to each other in the starting zone when I draft the AE. Its too late to take back your grenade but you can sit down with him now and use this as an example (one that he has experienced personally) and explain future counter-strategy.



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Old May 26th, 2006, 03:21 PM
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hahahaha Arenas, great story!


I once went through my Kid's entire army with a heavily damaged Krug. I think the total body count was around 7 of his figures and it won me the match. His mother was not very happy with me for doing it. I had to pull the lame line that "I was teaching him a lesson". Which consequently had me sleeping ont he couch......

I say good for you, if someone is going to beat him like that it should be you.


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Old May 26th, 2006, 03:29 PM
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I had to pull the lame line that "I was teaching him a lesson". Which consequently had me sleeping ont he couch......
Hehehe! You made me laugh a lot also!


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...I would have warned my son about placing any of his figures adjacent to each other in the starting zone when I draft the AE.
The starting zone was too small to place his figures otherwise... My fault!


Things you might have missed in the rulebook:
Figures can't pass through friendly engaged figures.
Figures can't attack themselves.

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Old May 26th, 2006, 04:36 PM
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I think any of you trying to get a youngster excite about the game, and actually playing to WIN? Are not realizing that most kids like to win.
So you should do your best to lose to a kid, if you want them to like the game.

But maybe that's just a common sense thing, that there's some deeper-level-motivator approach reason why an adult wouldn't do that.......... ?


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Old May 26th, 2006, 04:48 PM
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I think any of you trying to get a youngster excite about the game, and actually playing to WIN? Are not realizing that most kids like to win.
So you should do your best to lose to a kid, if you want them to like the game.

But maybe that's just a common sense thing, that there's some deeper-level-motivator approach reason why an adult wouldn't do that.......... ?
Good point Reapersaurus but I do let my son win often. Since he doen't allow me to draft a smaller army than his, I force myself to draft less balanced army and try to do my best out of it. Sometimes I will draft an all melee army and get butchered by him!

In the situation mentionned above, only one army card did it all...


Things you might have missed in the rulebook:
Figures can't pass through friendly engaged figures.
Figures can't attack themselves.

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Old May 26th, 2006, 04:59 PM
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I think any of you trying to get a youngster excite about the game, and actually playing to WIN? Are not realizing that most kids like to win.
So you should do your best to lose to a kid, if you want them to like the game.

But maybe that's just a common sense thing, that there's some deeper-level-motivator approach reason why an adult wouldn't do that.......... ?
I've always thrown the HS games against my son. I'm proud to spend the time bonding with him but oh, Heroscape is my favorite game so it's a heartache to spend so much time throwing a game.

By the way, my son is now 6 and we don't use order markers (he loses interest real quick during markers set-up phase).

My unspoken rule: If it's a game the child can comprehend at their level (Candyland or something) you should play no holds-barred, but if the game is above their level, it's nice to pull the punches.

If anything, my son has strong math skills because of Heroscape. I don't think he's that aware of strategies yet.


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Yes, but the tables were turned. My eleven-year-old daughter was able to deploy her AE on her second try and then won initiative …. And proceeded to roll double skulls for 3 of her four grenade attacks. I lost 2 swog and 3 or 4 gruts with the first. Second grenade took out another swog and 2 or 3 more grunts. I think her next AE blanked but that was followed up by another double skull which took out another swog and 3 or 4 more grunts. I have the attack all documented with photos … maybe I will get around to posting it on this thread sometime…. But it was painful , and it’s not the first time she has caused havoc with the AE. She has success about 50% of the time with them so she typically includes them in her arsenal.


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Old May 26th, 2006, 05:08 PM
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I play with my 1 1/2 yr younger brother and he has had a winning streak of 5/6 games and he kept rubbing it in. But a few days ago i finally fought back with my trusty Tagawa Samurai and wooped his ass...took down his charos and jotan, and he got in a strop and started accussing me of cheating!?! He is such a sore loser...and a sore winner at that!


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Tough love I say. It teaches them that winning isn't everything.....

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Old May 26th, 2006, 05:22 PM
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Too true! U can't win everything!


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